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Huaren
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cyu163

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有关ROTH IRA帐户的风险问题。

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2006-05-09 02:37:00

年纪越来越大了,最近动起了为退休存钱的念头。去年开了个tradition IRA. 当时银行告诉我本金是有联邦保险的,唯一的风险就是收益或多或少,最坏的情况就是收益为零,但是本金不会亏掉。

目前我想再开个ROTH IRA,在网上看了看,觉的Vanguard® Target Retirement Fund 不错。可是就是找不到有关本金有联邦保险这一条。在这里看到有的朋友说在年景不好的时候,ROTH IRA帐户里的钱缩水一半,不由的吓我一身冷汗。

难道IRA会因为买不同的基金而把本金也亏掉? 这是退休的钱啊,如果会把本金亏掉,那与正常股票帐户没太大区别了。

高手们能帮我解答一下吗?谢谢~~


 

Huaren
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sinpa

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2006-05-09 10:21:00

Traditional不知道,但是Roth是会亏掉本金的。但Roth里面买MF,要比直接炒股保险得多,只要Diversify,Hold足够长的时间,都是会盈利的。建议你还是看看Mutual Funds的入门书籍先。

Huaren
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xyin

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2006-05-09 10:54:00

any investment can lose money. even buy bonds from US government.

i have not heard any roth will guranteen your principle.

Huaren
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heavysnow

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2006-05-09 13:45:00

以下是引用xyin在2006-5-9 10:54:00的发言:

any investment can lose money. even buy bonds from US government.

i have not heard any roth will guranteen your principle.

that is so true.  look at the recent i-bond yield rate.

Huaren
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xyin

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2006-05-09 13:55:00

以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 13:45:00的发言:
以下是引用xyin在2006-5-9 10:54:00的发言:

any investment can lose money. even buy bonds from US government.

i have not heard any roth will guranteen your principle.

that is so true.  look at the recent i-bond yield rate.

yeah, i stopped my automatic purchasing plan. but I may start again next time they announce the rate tho.

exempt from state tax is a selling point. and flexibility is very important to me.

did u get into any ADM, PEXI?

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heavysnow

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2006-05-09 14:00:00

以下是引用xyin在2006-5-9 13:55:00的发言:
以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 13:45:00的发言:
以下是引用xyin在2006-5-9 10:54:00的发言:

any investment can lose money. even buy bonds from US government.

i have not heard any roth will guranteen your principle.

that is so true.  look at the recent i-bond yield rate.

yeah, i stopped my automatic purchasing plan. but I may start again next time they announce the rate tho.

exempt from state tax is a selling point. and flexibility is very important to me.

did u get into any ADM, PEXI?

to be honest, i dont have many stocks on hand.  even though i know few stocks are doing well, i dont feel have enough cash to play in the market.
Huaren
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heavysnow

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2006-05-09 14:04:00

以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 2:37:00的发言:

年纪越来越大了,最近动起了为退休存钱的念头。去年开了个tradition IRA. 当时银行告诉我本金是有联邦保险的,唯一的风险就是收益或多或少,最坏的情况就是收益为零,但是本金不会亏掉。

目前我想再开个ROTH IRA,在网上看了看,觉的Vanguard® Target Retirement Fund 不错。可是就是找不到有关本金有联邦保险这一条。在这里看到有的朋友说在年景不好的时候,ROTH IRA帐户里的钱缩水一半,不由的吓我一身冷汗。

难道IRA会因为买不同的基金而把本金也亏掉? 这是退休的钱啊,如果会把本金亏掉,那与正常股票帐户没太大区别了。

高手们能帮我解答一下吗?谢谢~~ 

unless they put the money in the money market account, i dont believe the principal is FDIC.  please correct me if you double check w/ your broker.  the mutual fund information you provided through vanguard is not FDIC. http://flagship3.vanguard.com/VGApp/hnw/content/PlanEdu/InvestorEdu/PEdIEMFBasicsContent.jsp
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Yadkin

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2006-05-09 15:30:00

买fund没有fdic保险的。最坏的情况是可以亏掉的。于股票账户的区别在于diversify 的大些,所以相对风险比股票小。

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cyu163

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2006-05-09 17:31:00

谢谢大家的回复。看样子ROTH IRA如果买FUND的话,是没有FDIC的。但是traditional IRA如果买FUND的话,却有FDIC的。本来以为ROTH的收益是免税的,比较适合我。没想到竟然找不到principal insured 的fund. 各位考虑买traditional 或是roth的时候,仅仅是从免税角度出发的吗? principal的风险一点都不在考虑之内?

下面就是我去年买的traditional ira的资料:

Stock Market IRA - A well deliberated risk

  • The interest generated is based on the changes in the Standard and Poor's 500 Index (S&P 500)
  • Minimum initial deposit: $500.
  • Available term: 5 years
  • The principal is insured by the FDIC up to $250,000

仔细考虑了一下,虽然ROTH的收益可以免税,但是还是有风险。谁也估计不到在漫长的几十年后,美国经济是啥样子。而这是退休金。关系到老年的生活质量。如果真的连本都亏掉,到时候可真的是哭都没眼泪。


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Huaren
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iamflying

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2006-05-09 18:28:00

i think the traditional IRA from your bank is some sort of MMK fund, usually MMK from bank has FDIC insured. 

and honestly i think the FDIC insurance is only against bankrupcy of the bank.  I do not think FDIC will protect you from losing money due to trading risks.

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