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Huaren
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再问529 plan

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2006-10-24 13:52:00

以前看过些讨论,不过都是一略而过,现在serious考虑了,有几个疑问

这个plan里earning是tax free的,contribution还要照付tax, 岂不是还不如存401k/403b?

那么这个plan更象roth IRA, 知道很多人喜欢roth, 就收益来讲会比traditional tax-deferred retirement plan好? 请有经验的jms指教

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2006-10-24 14:01:00

我觉得很多人喜欢roth主要是tax benefit, 然后才是flexibility, 受益高还是对于有经验的投资人,主体大众还是买mutual fund, 这样收益也就谈不上比traditional 高多少
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2006-10-24 14:24:00

以下是引用xyin在2006-10-24 14:01:00的发言:
我觉得很多人喜欢roth主要是tax benefit, 然后才是flexibility, 受益高还是对于有经验的投资人,主体大众还是买mutual fund, 这样收益也就谈不上比traditional 高多少

不太明白这个,assume存入取出时tax=20%, 回报率10%, 本金$100

401k: 100+10=110, 110*80%=88

roth:100*80%=80, 80+8=88

两个不是equal吗?

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2006-10-24 14:42:00

所以<5年roth 和 traditional 没有什么区别,(当然不是向你上面这个简单的算法, 但是结果差不多)。

长期就不一样了, 简单的说, compound 的收益不用交税这个时间越久, 越能体现出来, 我这里没有具体的就算方法, 你可以上网search 一下。

当然这个里面都有一个assumption, 就是很多年以后,税率不比现在低, 而且你的收入在退休后和现在的差别不是太大。

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2006-10-24 16:33:00

another point is that the tax bracket could be higher than current rate in the future.

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2006-10-24 16:38:00

Here are some of the points about what's great about 529 plan.

You're looking at four main advantages.

First, you get unsurpassed income tax breaks. Your investment grows tax-deferred, and distributions to pay for the beneficiary's college costs come out federally tax-free. The tax-free treatment was made permanent with the Pension Protection Act of 2006. Your own state may offer some tax breaks as well (like an upfront deduction for your contributions or income exemption on withdrawals) in addition to the federal treatment.

Second, you the donor stay in control of the account. With few exceptions, the named beneficiary has no rights to the funds. You are the one who calls the shots; you decide when withdrawals are taken and for what purpose. Most plans even allow you to reclaim the funds for yourself any time you desire, no questions asked. (However, the earnings portion of the "non-qualified" withdrawal will be subject to income tax and an additional 10% penalty tax). Compare this level of control to a custodial account under the Uniform Transfers to Minors Acts (UTMA).

Third, a 529 plan can provide a very easy hands-off way to save for college. Once you decide which 529 plan to use, you complete a simple enrollment form and make your contribution (or sign up for automatic deposits). Then you can relax and forget about it if you like. The ongoing investment of your account is handled by the plan, not by you. Plan assets are professionally managed either by the state treasurer's office or by an outside investment company hired as the program manager. You won't even receive a Form 1099 to report taxable or nontaxable earnings until the year you make withdrawals. If you want to move your investment around you may change to a different option in a 529 savings program every year (program permitting) or you may rollover your account to a different state's program provided no such rollover for your beneficiary has occurred in the prior 12 months. (There is no federal limit on the frequency of these changes if you replace the account beneficiary with another qualifying family member at the same time.)

Finally, everyone is eligible to take advantage of a 529 plan, and the amounts you can put in are substantial (over $300,000 per beneficiary in many state plans). Generally, there are no income limitations or age restrictions. Thinking about going back to college or graduate school in the future? Then set up a plan for yourself!

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