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Huaren
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Yadkin

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2006-05-09 19:06:00

以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 17:31:00的发言:

谢谢大家的回复。看样子ROTH IRA如果买FUND的话,是没有FDIC的。但是traditional IRA如果买FUND的话,却有FDIC的。本来以为ROTH的收益是免税的,比较适合我。没想到竟然找不到principal insured 的fund. 各位考虑买traditional 或是roth的时候,仅仅是从免税角度出发的吗? principal的风险一点都不在考虑之内?

下面就是我去年买的traditional ira的资料:

Stock Market IRA - A well deliberated risk

  • The interest generated is based on the changes in the Standard and Poor's 500 Index (S&P 500)
  • Minimum initial deposit: $500.
  • Available term: 5 years
  • The principal is insured by the FDIC up to $250,000

这句话的意思不就是S&P 500降了,你的钱也跟着降么?

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heavysnow

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2006-05-09 19:59:00

以下是引用iamflying在2006-5-9 18:28:00的发言:

i think the traditional IRA from your bank is some sort of MMK fund, usually MMK from bank has FDIC insured. 

and honestly i think the FDIC insurance is only against bankrupcy of the bank.  I do not think FDIC will protect you from losing money due to trading risks.

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your portfolio.
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cyu163

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2006-05-09 22:52:00

以下是引用Yadkin在2006-5-9 19:06:00的发言:
以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 17:31:00的发言:

谢谢大家的回复。看样子ROTH IRA如果买FUND的话,是没有FDIC的。但是traditional IRA如果买FUND的话,却有FDIC的。本来以为ROTH的收益是免税的,比较适合我。没想到竟然找不到principal insured 的fund. 各位考虑买traditional 或是roth的时候,仅仅是从免税角度出发的吗? principal的风险一点都不在考虑之内?

下面就是我去年买的traditional ira的资料:

Stock Market IRA - A well deliberated risk

  • The interest generated is based on the changes in the Standard and Poor's 500 Index (S&P 500)
  • Minimum initial deposit: $500.
  • Available term: 5 years
  • The principal is insured by the FDIC up to $250,000

这句话的意思不就是S&P 500降了,你的钱也跟着降么?

这句话的意思是S&P 500降了,The interest 也会少,但是principal 却不会有风险。应该是这个意思吧
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cyu163

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2006-05-09 22:57:00

以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 19:59:00的发言:
以下是引用iamflying在2006-5-9 18:28:00的发言:

i think the traditional IRA from your bank is some sort of MMK fund, usually MMK from bank has FDIC insured. 

and honestly i think the FDIC insurance is only against bankrupcy of the bank.  I do not think FDIC will protect you from losing money due to trading risks.

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your portfolio.

我买的是STOCK MARKET IRA,跟踪的是S&P 500,自然算是SECURITIES,而不应该是储蓄之类的。那个银行说的很清楚啊,本金是一定不会损失的。

顺便说一下,限额是5000,这也是我一直不理解的事情。

 


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cyu163

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2006-05-09 23:02:00

以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 19:59:00的发言:
 

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your .

这就是我要买Vanguard® Target Retirement Funds 的原因,随着年纪的增长,FUND会帮我配置比较合理的portfolio,不需要我伤脑筋。只是如果不保护本金,心理有点不塌实。

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heavysnow

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2006-05-09 23:15:00

以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 23:02:00的发言:
以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 19:59:00的发言:
 

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your .

这就是我要买Vanguard® Target Retirement Funds 的原因,随着年纪的增长,FUND会帮我配置比较合理的portfolio,不需要我伤脑筋。只是如果不保护本金,心理有点不塌实。

you are not alone.  what you feel about losing principal is understandable.   
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heavysnow

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2006-05-09 23:27:00

以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 22:57:00的发言:
以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 19:59:00的发言:
以下是引用iamflying在2006-5-9 18:28:00的发言:

i think the traditional IRA from your bank is some sort of MMK fund, usually MMK from bank has FDIC insured. 

and honestly i think the FDIC insurance is only against bankrupcy of the bank.  I do not think FDIC will protect you from losing money due to trading risks.

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your portfolio.

我买的是STOCK MARKET IRA,跟踪的是S&P 500,自然算是SECURITIES,而不应该是储蓄之类的。那个银行说的很清楚啊,本金是一定不会损失的。

顺便说一下,限额是5000,这也是我一直不理解的事情。

that limit of $5,000 is FDIC insured.  so anything above that limit will not be protected, as what i am thinking.  you should, however, double check w/ the bank.  i searched online and found the PNCBank offers FDIC insured investment, including IRA Certificates of Deposit and IRA Money Market accounts.  i think this type of investment is relatively low risk.

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tetrahedral

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2006-05-09 23:32:00

以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 23:02:00的发言:
以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 19:59:00的发言:
 

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your .

这就是我要买Vanguard® Target Retirement Funds 的原因,随着年纪的增长,FUND会帮我配置比较合理的portfolio,不需要我伤脑筋。只是如果不保护本金,心理有点不塌实。

     我怎么觉得能确保不亏本金的只有存银行呢?还是我太土?
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cyu163

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2006-05-10 00:19:00

以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 23:27:00的发言:
以下是引用cyu163在2006-5-9 22:57:00的发言:
以下是引用heavysnow在2006-5-9 19:59:00的发言:
以下是引用iamflying在2006-5-9 18:28:00的发言:

i think the traditional IRA from your bank is some sort of MMK fund, usually MMK from bank has FDIC insured. 

and honestly i think the FDIC insurance is only against bankrupcy of the bank.  I do not think FDIC will protect you from losing money due to trading risks.

that's true.  you cannot avoid the risk, but you might lower the risk by diversifying your portfolio.

我买的是STOCK MARKET IRA,跟踪的是S&P 500,自然算是SECURITIES,而不应该是储蓄之类的。那个银行说的很清楚啊,本金是一定不会损失的。

顺便说一下,限额是5000,这也是我一直不理解的事情。

that limit of $5,000 is FDIC insured.  so anything above that limit will not be protected, as what i am thinking.  you should, however, double check w/ the bank.  i searched online and found the PNCBank offers FDIC insured investment, including IRA Certificates of Deposit and IRA Money Market accounts.  i think this type of investment is relatively low risk.

不不不.... that limit of $5,000 是IRA的限额。我知道2004,2005都只能买$4000。所以才奇怪不知道为啥我可以买5000。

(FDIC每个帐户可以担保25万。在顶楼的资料里已经说的很清楚了)。

 

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Yadkin

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2006-05-10 17:37:00

如果你在4/17前买可以买2年的(如果你去年没买的话)。所以可以up to 8000块。

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