yes , you can. Either you or your husband can only claim an exemption for the baby.
Dogscat:
see following which I copied from my first post. I suggest you to use method II.
Attach both 8843 and 8833. One both 1042S and W2, you will see one slide says file with Federal tax return.
5. 从F1 转成H1, 怎么报税?
答: 2种方法, 一是按照" dual-status aliens" 报税, 这个方法比较复杂,在这里打出来也麻烦, 并且不省税, ( 没有STANDARD DEDUCTION), 所以不建议用这个方法报. 如果你真想知道的话,可以给我发信.
第
二种方法是, 按照美国公民的身份报. 但你必须 make a " first year election".
具体来说就是你必须在1140后面附带一个STATEMENT, 说明你 1. MAKE A FIRST YEAR ELECTION, 2.
YOU ARE NOT A RESIDENT IN 2006; 3. YOU WILL MEET THE 183 DAYS (
SUBSTANTIAL PRESENSE TEST UNDER SECTION 7701(B)) IN 2007. . 注意,
除非你MAKE THE FIRST YEAR ELECTION, 否则你不可以填1140. 通常1140 比1140 NR 省税.
漫漫长路
File 1040NR or 1040 NR-EZ. Your husband does not meet 183 days test therefore he is Non-resident. Or you can make first year election, see above reply to "Dogscat."
Question:
如果F1->H1按照Residential Alian(1040)报税,还可以Claim 5000 Treaty吗?
Question:
如果F1->H1按照Residential Alian(1040)报税,还可以Claim 5000 Treaty吗?
不可以。
Thanks, very helpful, could you help me with my question? Tahnsk a ot.
本人情况:married, 2002年8月来美,05年6月到9月OPT,10月转H1。
用first year choice,用resident alien报税。
现在准备申请extension,有几个疑问。
1,申请extension让先把去年的税估算一下,是用resident alien还是
nonresident alien 估算。
2,如果去年全年按resident alien报税,那H1之前的收入是不是也要交
SS tax和medicare,
3,同样,是不是去年所有的银行利息也要保税。
多谢了。"
我的情况基本跟你一样。
第一个问题我的理解是根据 nonresident算,我好象在哪看到过。
第二个问题我也想问,我现在的想法是应该不要吧 。我的情况好象还不如你,我已经被扣了,想着是否能拿回来。都跟单位说了,让先返返看,回头要是说又要退回去,估计人家要疯了。
第三个问题如果你 resident的话,要报银行利息的。
我的问题是,我要跟我lg联合报,他还是学生,我们在不同的州。是不是我俩的州税可以分开报吗》还有就是州税不需要file extension看 ?
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不好意思,拿了个有很长历史的问题来烦妹妹:去年我用OPT工作的时候,公司扣了我的FICA tax, 后来我读了519(没说错吧?),要求公司给我退FICA, 结果没退成,只好自己去IRS要, 就有了下面的这个我刚整理好的帖子,请妹妹有时间的时候看看。谢谢。
去年报税前,我发了第一个帖子,问按first-year choice作为resident报税对FICA tax的影响,第二个帖子是Qin的回信,已经被收入精华区,他说选择作为resident保税不影响本来享有的免FICA权利。我们的情况不同在于,Qin问IRS的是他的F1配偶的FICAtax,我要问的是我从F1转到H1这一年中,我作F1时扣的FICA是不是可以要回来。我的理解是跟Qin的情况一样,我即使选择按resident填1040,也不用交F1身份期间的FICA后来我又给IRS打过电话,回答也和我想的一样。
我按这个理解报了去年的税,结果几次收到IRS的信,表明他们还在处理这个案子,但是最后还是据了,理由就是我填的1040,不能免FICA. 我的第三个帖子,问大家要不要上述,结果贴不逢时,只有两个回帖,而且观点不同。tax season又到了,请大侠们帮助考虑一下吧,谢谢。
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第一个帖子
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【 在 adina (松鼠, a rat with a cuter outfit) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谢谢shishi和zengdl,又读了一遍519, 大方向基本明白啦,还有点儿问题:
: 到美国第四年,dual status, F1->H1, 另一个是F1(CPT),可以两个人都按
resident报
: 税,这样deduction多些,但是要补交一个人前十个月F1期间的FICA tax, 另一个人全
年的FICA, 也很多呀. 收入就是工资和一点儿interest,没孩子,也没搬家费什么的可
:
: deduct. 听说一般来说算resident,更合算。我的例子是不是有点特殊,应该比较一下
啦
: ?另外, 补FICA的话,是直接交给IRS, 还是和公司说?多谢啦。
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第二个帖子
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http://mitbbs.com/mitbbs_bbsann2.php?path=life.faq/TAX/fica/fica_treatedR&title=算resident要交全年的FICA%20tax吗?
发信人: Qin (blackeyes), 信区: TAX
标 题: Re: 算resident 要交全年的FICA tax 呀
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Feb 17 10:22:34 2006)
我上周专门e-mail问过IRS类似的问题, 因为我是Resident Alien,而LD仍是F1(CPT,OPT)
在五年之内. 我问的是如果LD选择to be treated as resident alien and filing
jointly with me, whether she should repay FICA and how?
下面是其回答:
If you and your spouse file a joint tax return by making the election
to treat her as a resident alien for tax year 2005, you and your spouse
are treated for income tax purposes as resident aliens for the tax
year.
Internal Revenue Code (IRC) Sec. 6013 (g) reads as follows:
(g) Election to treat nonresident alien individual as resident of the
United States
(1) In general
A nonresident alien individual with respect to whom this
subsection is in effect for the taxable year shall be treated as a resident
of the United States -
(A) for purposes of chapter 1 for all of such taxable year,
and
(B) for purposes of chapter 24 (relating to wage withholding)
for payments of wages made during such taxable year.
Therefore, a nonresident alien who makes an election to file a joint
return under IRC 6013(g) is treated as a resident alien only for the
purposes of:
1. Chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code (income taxes),
and
2. Chapter 24 of the Internal Revenue Code (withholding of
federal income taxes on wages).
Absent from this list is Chapter 21 of the Internal Revenue
(Social Security & Medicare Taxes). That is, the electionfile joint
return with a resident alien spouse under IRC 6013(g) has no effect upon
the nonresident alien spouse's liability for social security and
Medicare taxes under Chapter 21 of the Internal Revenue Code.
Thus, in the situation of your "F-1" student spouse, she was exempt
from social security and Medicare taxes under IRC 3121(b)(19) for tax
2005.
Thank you for using our service.
我的理解:
因为F1(<=5 years) is Nonresident Alien for tax purpose, 所以exempt from FICA至于F1选择跟你一起报税而被作为Resident Alien, 属于F1的权利,算是借光吧. 希望有所帮助, 如有不同解读,欢迎讨论
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第三个帖子
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【 在 adina (松鼠, a rat with a cuter outfit) 的大作中提到: 】
: 拒绝了我要回F1期间交的FICA tax的要求,理由是我和老公,按first year choice,
: 报的1040。报税前给IRS打电话,他们的回答是,F1期间免FICA, 是和报1040,还是
: 1040NR没关系的。信中说,可以上述,大家觉得值得吗?$1,100 ”
我想你如果当时没被 扣的话应该不是太有关系。象我这种想要回来的,可能就有困难了。被拒是正常
[此贴子已经被作者于2007-3-19 1:18:56编辑过]
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Thanks, very helpful, could you help me with my question? Tahnsk a ot.
本人情况:married, 2002年8月来美,05年6月到9月OPT,10月转H1。
用first year choice,用resident alien报税。
现在准备申请extension,有几个疑问。
1,申请extension让先把去年的税估算一下,是用resident alien还是
nonresident alien 估算。
2,如果去年全年按resident alien报税,那H1之前的收入是不是也要交
SS tax和medicare,
3,同样,是不是去年所有的银行利息也要保税。
多谢了。"
如果你从拿到H1的那天起到4/17满了183天,你不需要file extension,你可以把tax return 在将近4/17的时候寄去,就是说等到满183天才寄去。一般来说10月你就拿到H1,很有可能不需要extension,除非你是将近月底才拿到的。
问题:1. 孩子的daycare费用是从tax里面直接扣除的吗?学费1098t是不是也是从tax里直接扣除的阿?
2. 如果file 1040,不再享受5000得treaty,是不是就可以和公民一样有5150得standard deduction呢?谢谢!
you just need to Make the first year election. No need to file extension. Just attach a statement say you will meet 183 days test next year. see my first post regarding the first year election.
Note, part of the salary you make while you are a student/opt can claim treaty benefits.
冉冉
:
1. Daycare expense --- I am not sure if it is deductible or not. I guess it is not deductible. REmember to claim kid credit.
tuition fee is not deductible, but you can claim hope credit or lifetime learning credit. normally you are qualify lifetime learning credit. that is 20% of your tuition fee up to 2000.
2. File 1040 generally means you can not claim treaty benefits. But if you are a student stays in US more than 5 years, and you are still a student on 2006, you can claim both the 5000 treaty benefits and 5150 standard deduction.
To claim the treaty benefit you should file form 8833, state you claim treaty benefit under article 20 of US-China treaty benefits. Also states that " saving clause" not apply due to para.2 of protocol to the US-China tax treaty.
我刚看到MIT上有人说给IRS打了电话,说是如果选择以RA来填表,SS和Medicare就不能要了。
It is very nice of you sharing such good experience with us.
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