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Huaren
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vivien0612

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2008-11-05 02:03:00

以下是引用ranran_sweety在2008-11-5 1:58:00的发言:

I am sure MM, you are intelligent enough to use words other than " shithole","disgusting", to explain what gay means to your kids.


will "anus" "gross" make any difference? 

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dust07

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2008-11-05 02:04:00

以下是引用凡士林在2008-11-5 2:02:00的发言:
最后那个还是通过了吗?

应该是通过了,没什么大变化了,应该。
anyway, i would vote no if i'm allowed
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page394

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2008-11-05 02:04:00

以下是引用dust07在2008-11-5 1:52:00的发言:


关键的问题就是很多人不认为卖淫嫖娼和乱伦与同性恋是一个category,like me

有多少人觉得婚姻应该是一夫一妻呢?没人要禁止同性恋行为,只是觉得他们那个叫marriage不太合适。


比如,婚外情,这个也和乱伦,卖淫,不是一个category, 这个行为有争议,当事人可能觉得命运作弄不能自已。这个行为社会上很多了,也有陆一曼,还有啥别的听美好的例子。


但是要是这些人说作为小三,情妇受到了歧视,要争取一夫多妻合法化,是不是就让人难以接受呢?


总之,道德上的标准每个人都不一样,大多数人能接受,就可以作。所以要投票,这个彼此不太可能说服的,有什么观点有投票权就一定要投,然后就接受结果好了。

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angeliali

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2008-11-05 02:05:00

以下是引用dust07在2008-11-5 1:52:00的发言:


关键的问题就是很多人不认为卖淫嫖娼和乱伦与同性恋是一个category,like me

 


I am glad that it is passed, at least it sends out a message to people what is the right direction that we as human being should go for. I think 乱伦and同性恋 are in the same category, as they are against the biological rule that i have been believing in. As more and more ppl 乱伦 and 同性恋, human being will extinct eventually, although it is very unlikely to happen.


 


If you look at the summary of arguement against prop 8:


 


Equality under the law is a fundamental freedom. Regardless of how we feel about marriage, singling people (if a farther and his daughter are both single, and they want to get married, can you accept that? ) out to be treated differently is wrong (If two things are different, i don't see why we call them the same name). Prop. 8 won't affect our schools, but it will mean loving couples are treated differently under our Constitution and denied equal protection under the law (They can get the same protection as marriage can bring them, i am not against that, but not under the name of marriage).


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proserpina

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2008-11-05 02:08:00

以下是引用dust07在2008-11-5 1:52:00的发言:


关键的问题就是很多人不认为卖淫嫖娼和乱伦与同性恋是一个category,like me


this will be legal as well in SF if Pro K is passed.
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youxi

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2008-11-05 02:10:00

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 2:03:00的发言:

will "anus" "gross" make any difference? 


啊啊! MM给你台阶下你不要下就算了,希望你有个幸福的家庭.
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proserpina

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2008-11-05 02:11:00

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 2:05:00的发言:

 

I am glad that it is passed, at list it sends out a message to people what is the right direction that we as human being should go for. I think 乱伦and同性恋 are in the same category, as they are against the biological rule that i have been believing in. As more and more ppl 乱伦 and 同性恋, human being will extinct eventually, although it is very unlikely to happen.

 

If you look at the summary of arguement against prop 8:

 

Equality under the law is a fundamental freedom. Regardless of how we feel about marriage, singling people (if a farther and his daughter are both single, and they want to get married, can you accept that? ) out to be treated differently is wrong (If two things are different, i don't see why we call them the same name). Prop. 8 won't affect our schools, but it will mean loving couples are treated differently under our Constitution and denied equal protection under the law (They can get the same protection as marriage can bring them, i am not against that, but not under the name of marriage).


Exactly my position.
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page394

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2008-11-05 02:11:00

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 2:05:00的发言:

 


I am glad that it is passed, at list it sends out a message to people what is the right direction that we as human being should go for. I think 乱伦and同性恋 are in the same category, as they are against the biological rule that i have been believing in. As more and more ppl 乱伦 and 同性恋, human being will extinct eventually, although it is very unlikely to happen.


 


If you look at the summary of arguement against prop 8:


 


Equality under the law is a fundamental freedom. Regardless of how we feel about marriage, singling people (if a farther and his daughter are both single, and they want to get married, can you accept that? ) out to be treated differently is wrong (If two things are different, i don't see why we call them the same name). Prop. 8 won't affect our schools, but it will mean loving couples are treated differently under our Constitution and denied equal protection under the law (They can get the same protection as marriage can bring them, i am not against that, but not under the name of marriage).


I like your blue words. Good argument!


But I don't think we can persuade anyone on this issue.


Really, why they insist on "marriage", they already accept the word "gay" and "les", why not use "gayrage" and "lesage", why would that hurt their feeling?

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as_still_water

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2008-11-05 02:13:00

以下是引用youxi在2008-11-5 2:10:00的发言:


啊啊! MM给你台阶下你不要下就算了,希望你有个幸福的家庭.

hehe, I just hope she won't teach her kids about sex using the "hole" language, sign....

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page394

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2008-11-05 02:14:00

以下是引用proserpina在2008-11-5 2:08:00的发言:


this will be legal as well in SF if Pro K is passed.

所以说道德的标准对错是很模糊的。


赞成同性恋婚姻的,可能有一百条理由反对卖淫嫖娼,其实不过是每个人的道德标准不一样而已。


投票就是看看大多数人怎么想,顺着大伙儿的意思。


 

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