如果你要移民火星，你可以走，但是耶路撒冷仍然属于犹太人。
明白了，您这是个normative claim， 本来呢也不需要假设和论据论证什么的。
还有一段：
第一次世界大战中，英国为保护其在苏伊士运河的利益，大力扶植利用犹太复国主义运动，以控制巴勒斯坦地区。１９１７年，英国发表《贝尔福宣言》，“赞成在 巴勒斯坦建立一个犹太民族之家”。１９２２年７月，国际联盟通过了英国对巴勒斯坦的“委任统治训令”，巴勒斯坦沦为英国的“委任统治地”。在英国统治期 间，大批犹太人从世界各地迁入巴勒斯坦。巴勒斯坦的犹太居民从１９１７年《贝尔福宣言》发表前的５万人增加到１９３９年的４４．５万人。犹太人侵占巴勒斯 坦阿拉伯人的土地，驱逐巴勒斯坦阿拉伯人，犹太人和巴勒斯坦阿拉伯人不断发生暴力冲突。人肉炸弹首先由犹太复国主义者发明。
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[此贴子已经被作者于2009-1-6 21:04:51编辑过]
支持以色列！！！
首先，以色列的土地永远属于以色列人，犹太人和穆斯林人对耶路撒冷的争夺已经几千年了，耶路撒冷永远属于犹太人。
其次，所谓“空降国”是左翼国家的一种流氓说法，如果一个民族因为战争在历史的某一段时间对某一片原本属于自己的土地失去了控制，就代表这片土地不属于此民族的话，那么按照此流氓逻辑，香港澳门台湾和钓鱼刀都不属于中国。
最后，以色列人一直在给加沙的难民提供食品饮用水和电力，但是哈马斯却利用无辜的加沙难民做肉体挡箭牌。
If the Muslim lay down their weapon, there will be no more war; if the Jewish lay down their weapon, there will be no more Israel.
What a bold statement! I can see you being poetic stating an extremely pathetic claim! I can definitely assert that your knowlege about the history of that area emanates from a zionist propaganda. Let me carefully comment your rather foolish statement: "If the Muslim lay down their weapon, there will be no more war" ... that is actually true for the simple reason that they will be consequently colonized and annihilated by the israHelly cowards! "if the Jewish lay down their weapon, there will be no more Israel" ... that would be great, because that one racist colonialist entity should have not existed from the beginning.
我说我爱以色列了吗？我只是实事求是，用道理说明问题。你真相信耶路撒冷是属于穆斯林的吗？建议你先去研究一下耶路撒冷是希伯来语还是阿拉伯语。
我要的是证据。你只给结论不给证据那不是没有回答我的问题么。
唉，历史长的民族，国家都有很多宿怨，中国也有这个问题。还是谁的拳头硬，谁就有饭吃。。。
当年犹太人赶尽杀绝巴勒斯坦的各个小国家，希伯来人得以建立自己的国家，犹太人又给波斯，巴比伦打败，国家灭亡，到罗马时期终于被赶出这个地方。历史上不少国家对犹太人的围剿也是相当的可怕。两千年之后犹太人又回到这个地方，但是经年战争不停。福兮祸兮？
巴勒斯坦从来没有建国（而一直作为巴勒斯坦地区），对耶路撒冷的争夺只是在犹太人和穆斯林人之间翻来覆去几千年。犹太人被穆斯林人从自己的土地上打跑了，因为穆斯林的手段一向是灭绝式屠杀。
同理，台湾不被中华人民共和国统治多少年才不算中国国土？一个民族的土地永远属于这个民族。建议你研究一下穆斯林人有史以来侵占耶路撒冷累计一共多少年。
First, you should really cut this bullshit and go learn about history first. Jerusalem has never been Jewish for more than probably 150 years at most except in rotten minds like yours of course. Historically, Muslim has been the best people to Jews who have been exterminated by many other groups. The Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem by the Roman (you should at least know this). And only after the Muslim kicked the Romans out of Palestine that the Jews started living in Peace there! If you need any good references on this matter, I'm more than happy to help!
如果墨西哥人不愿意要回加州的土地，那是他们的选择，现在的加州差不多也都说西班牙语了，可能人家墨西哥人手段比较高明，放弃武力转为文化渗透。
以色列属于犹太人，耶路撒冷属于以色列！
拜托，喊口号没用的，我发帖子是要证据，地图啊什么的。叫了这么半天麻烦您给给大家普及一下知识啊。
穆斯林人把自己的妇女当成狗，把自己的儿童训练成人体炸弹，把自己的年迈者做成肉体挡箭牌；以色列在攻击哈马斯军事目标的同时，能不为加沙居民提供人道主义援助吗？你以为犹太人和穆斯林人的世界观相同啊？
First, you should really cut this bullshit and go learn about history first. Jerusalem has never been Jewish for more than probably 150 years at most except in rotten minds like yours of course. Historically, Muslim has been the best people to Jews who have been exterminated by many other groups. The Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem by the Roman (you should at least know this). And only after the Muslim kicked the Romans out of Palestine that the Jews started living in Peace there! If you need any good references on this matter, I'm more than happy to help!
顶一下，这个是最靠谱的。
历史上穆斯林对犹太人是比较宽厚的，
当然历史上穆斯林在宗教上一向相对比较宽容。
First, you should really cut this bullshit and go learn about history first. Jerusalem has never been Jewish for more than probably 150 years at most except in rotten minds like yours of course. Historically, Muslim has been the best people to Jews who have been exterminated by many other groups. The Jews were kicked out of Jerusalem by the Roman (you should at least know this). And only after the Muslim kicked the Romans out of Palestine that the Jews started living in Peace there! If you need any good references on this matter, I'm more than happy to help!
谢谢mm,要是不麻烦的话多贴点文章吧。美国媒体都是犹太人控制的，我觉得实在是不好找客观的文章。
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