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Huaren
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Garfield_pipi

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2008-09-10 14:40:00

以下是引用bobomay08在2008-9-10 14:33:00的发言:

It is so lucky that the decision of US president is not determined by the Chinese here. Obama presents the american dream: achieving success and reach to the top single handedly even though one is from a poor family or born to be disadvantaged.


 


I can't believe so many Chinese think a old whiteman who may have heart attach anytime during the presidency, and a women who knows nothing more than beauty contest and polar bears, can lead America which has so many troubles right now.


 


If you think democritic policy is too socialism, and bad for the middle class, just take a look at what the Bush administration did to the middle class? Listen a bit carefully about what Obama said about how the life of middle class deteriorate so much during bush's presidency.


 


If you think Asian are superior than black because we score higher, just look at how difficult it is for a blackman to achieve high due to their neighborhood influences and all kinds of discrimination ever since they are born.


 


I can't understand why so many chinese who face a lot of discrimination and poverty everyday as foreigner, want to have someone who is born as senitor's son and billionair's husband and never knows the feeling of property and hardship in life to lead the country.


 


I believe in the smartest and strongest men or women, who born poor and in hardship but achieve success by him or herself should lead US, regardless of his or her color, age and gender.


奥巴马就是一个政治投机家,period

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ratzinger

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2008-09-10 14:42:00

以下是引用tobeornottobe在2008-9-10 14:26:00的发言:

你自己说谁上台区别不大的,照你的意思, 小O上了,这些问题都不存在了?


你不是说要个会打仗的吗?这两个人比,没觉得M自己会打啊。


 


区别不大,还是有点区别的。相对来讲,民主党后面的势力打仗不积极一点。民主党搞政治搞不过共和党,打仗也一样。共和党吗,石油,军工,这些个东东。偶认识的很多老美都跟我说布什是oil man。这个就是有支持才能上台做代言人。


 


当然,偶是完全灌水水平地说。妹妹看看历史summary吧。


 


 


 


共和党创立后在北部深得人心,富有生气。1860年其候选人A.林肯以“言论自由、土地自由、劳动自由、人身自由”为纲领当选第16届总统(1861-1865)。南北战争中,共和党领导北方人民,战胜南部同盟,在全国确立了资本主义制度;战后,共和党连续执政20年,以“拯救联邦”和“解放黑人”的老大党自称,并与南部白人至上主义者妥协;19世纪80-90年代美国进入垄断阶段;这一时期,共和党长期执政,为东北部和中部财团利益服务;1898年总统W.麦金利(1843-1901)发动争夺海外殖民地的美西战争;翌年提出对中国实行“门户开放”政策;20世纪20-30年代,连续执政的3位共和党总统对大企业采取自由放任的政策,经济严重失调,造成商品积压、金融混乱和大批失业,导致1929-1933年经济危机;共和党在1932年总统竞选中惨败,从此一蹶不振。第二次世界大战后,该党开始得到南部财团支持,1953年其候选人D.D.艾森豪威尔当选总统;任内提出侵略中东的“艾森豪威尔主义”;19690-1976年,R.M.尼克松、G.R.福特相继担任总统;1981年E.W.里根上台,实行紧缩的货币政策,对外提出“恢复经济和军事实力、重振国威”的口号,对苏联采取强硬态度;同时在加强实力的基础上,谋求同苏联谈判,1984年连任总统;1989-1993年,G.布什出任总统。


 


 


美国进入帝国主义阶段以来,民主党在本质上与共和党无异,亦被垄断财团控制。但因其一贯标榜民主颇得工会中上层支持,常以代表劳工自称;第一次世界大战时,民主党T.W.威尔逊政府于1917年参战;1920年后共和党执政;1933年民主党的F.D.罗斯福在严重经济危机中击败共和党总统H. C.胡佛(1929-1933在任)就任总统,实行新政,以解决经济危机,并促进了国家垄断资本主义的发展;4次蝉联总统;1945年4月12日罗斯福去世后,由H.S.杜鲁门继任;1950年杜鲁门政府派兵入侵朝鲜。1953年杜鲁门下台;此后,民主党与共和党继续交替执政;1961-1969年,1977-1981年民主党执政,J.F.肯尼迪、L.B.约翰逊、J.卡特(1977-1981在任)任总统;民主党对内继续推行“新政”政策,先后提出“公平施政”、“新边疆”和“伟大社会的方针”;对外推行扩张政策;肯尼迪、约翰逊任内强化了越南战争;1994年B.克林顿出任总统。

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yankee

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2008-09-10 14:43:00

Politicians lie all the time. They will do and say anything to get elected.


 


I don't care who will be the next president, no one can save me or you from misery. They are elitists, all of the presidents. Obama achieved a lot in his own life but that has nothing to do us asians. He has published two books, good for him. But he and his wife hated (can anyone explain to me that they don't) this country which I just became a citizen of. I vote on what a candidate did before they wanted to be president not when they wanted to be elected. It's all lies, garbage, nonsense, already. Change, change of what, so Sun will rise from the west? Or can somebody convince me that if Obama is president dinosours wouldn't've been extinct then I will change my mind.

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ratzinger

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2008-09-10 14:46:00

以下是引用唧唧歪歪在2008-9-10 14:39:00的发言:
k, 有时月经贴

妹妹,你可以把这个月字改成日字。

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angeliali

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2008-09-10 14:47:00

zt frommit, 笑死我了。


还是我一个办公室的,我彻底无语了,还是phd,research做得不错。下面是对话:A是
我。

A:Mccain今天终于刚上来了,爽
B:你支持他?你是不是生病了?你脑子出问题了?你不用脑子想问题?
A:(万分惊讶,想不到他这么说)obama就是nothing but empty worlds.
B:你无救了,你还是学science的,怎么不动脑筋想问题?你用脑子想问题啊?
A:(开始气愤了),obama根本就是不爱国,传播仇恨20年,根本没有资格!你说他有
啥优势?除了卖嘴巴?
B:我不跟你说了,你太不可救了,竟然支持共和党,支持mccain.你不可救了,你不懂
脑子想啊?
A:(非常气愤),你知道obama的牧师么?知道他的church么?你说说他啥成绩?
B:你太不可救了(连续3次),你知道那个palin么?
A:我非常喜欢,我就是最支持她了!
B:你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了
A:她哪里比obama差了,她哪里都比obama强!你说说obama哪里强?除了卖嘴巴
B:你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了!
A:obama的牧师公开诅咒美国,你知道么?
B:你怎么能乱挺别人说,that is not ture,that is not true.
A: 听说?录像都放出来了?难道你没有看
B:你说的都不是事实!
A:录像都有,还不是事实?
B:你说的都是听别人说的.
A: 那你是听谁说的?
B:obama不同意那个牧师,每次都离开了?
A:你怎么知道他离开了?你看见了?
B:你怎么知道他没有离开?
A:如果你不同意你牧师观点,你为啥还待20年?还找他写书? why? what is his
judgment?
B:你不要乱听别人说,obama都说了,他不在?
A:他说啥你都信?他说的都是事实?他说啥,你就跟桌他说?你做science也是这样的?
B:你知道,我roomate么?
A: 知道。
B:他强烈支持obama
A: 他支持,我就一定要支持?我觉得做事应该自己动脑子,不要别人说啥,就是啥!




我真的是开了眼界了!还有这样的,都30多岁了,男的,phd毕业。

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Garfield_pipi

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2008-09-10 14:48:00

以下是引用bobomay08在2008-9-10 14:33:00的发言:

It is so lucky that the decision of US president is not determined by the Chinese here. Obama presents the american dream: achieving success and reach to the top single handedly even though one is from a poor family or born to be disadvantaged.


 


I can't believe so many Chinese think a old whiteman who may have heart attach anytime during the presidency, and a women who knows nothing more than beauty contest and polar bears, can lead America which has so many troubles right now.


 


If you think democritic policy is too socialism, and bad for the middle class, just take a look at what the Bush administration did to the middle class? Listen a bit carefully about what Obama said about how the life of middle class deteriorate so much during bush's presidency.


 


If you think Asian are superior than black because we score higher, just look at how difficult it is for a blackman to achieve high due to their neighborhood influences and all kinds of discrimination ever since they are born.


 


I can't understand why so many chinese who face a lot of discrimination and poverty everyday as foreigner, want to have someone who is born as senitor's son and billionair's husband and never knows the feeling of property and hardship in life to lead the country.


 


I believe in the smartest and strongest men or women, who born poor and in hardship but achieve success by him or herself should lead US, regardless of his or her color, age and gender.


另外,大家不喜欢奥巴马和他的出身,他的肤色没有任何关系。你能相信一个投了一百多张弃权票的junior senator么?你能相信一个说自己按错了6次键的senator么?你能相信一个时时刻刻都在change的人么?我没投票权,属于无卡无房无孩一族,没有任何可以deduct tax的地方,所以他们tax policy对我至关重要。

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greenflower

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2008-09-10 14:48:00

以下是引用Garfield_pipi在2008-9-10 14:40:00的发言:

奥巴马就是一个政治投机家,period

如果mccain不投机,当年被炒极右派们bs到死,现在还要投其所好
如果palin不是 为什么她要对不管事实的胡说八道,完全根据gop的讲演稿来描绘自己?

搞政治的都投机的说

美国这种两党制这么久
选谁还是靠自己一贯以来坚信的价值观和周围社区和社会的影响啊

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seven3

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2008-09-10 14:49:00

以下是引用angeliali在2008-9-10 14:47:00的发言:

zt frommit, 笑死我了。

还是我一个办公室的,我彻底无语了,还是phd,research做得不错。下面是对话:A是
我。

A:Mccain今天终于刚上来了,爽
B:你支持他?你是不是生病了?你脑子出问题了?你不用脑子想问题?
A:(万分惊讶,想不到他这么说)obama就是nothing but empty worlds.
B:你无救了,你还是学science的,怎么不动脑筋想问题?你用脑子想问题啊?
A:(开始气愤了),obama根本就是不爱国,传播仇恨20年,根本没有资格!你说他有
啥优势?除了卖嘴巴?
B:我不跟你说了,你太不可救了,竟然支持共和党,支持mccain.你不可救了,你不懂
脑子想啊?
A:(非常气愤),你知道obama的牧师么?知道他的church么?你说说他啥成绩?
B:你太不可救了(连续3次),你知道那个palin么?
A:我非常喜欢,我就是最支持她了!
B:你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了
A:她哪里比obama差了,她哪里都比obama强!你说说obama哪里强?除了卖嘴巴
B:你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了!
A:obama的牧师公开诅咒美国,你知道么?
B:你怎么能乱挺别人说,that is not ture,that is not true.
A: 听说?录像都放出来了?难道你没有看
B:你说的都不是事实!
A:录像都有,还不是事实?
B:你说的都是听别人说的.
A: 那你是听谁说的?
B:obama不同意那个牧师,每次都离开了?
A:你怎么知道他离开了?你看见了?
B:你怎么知道他没有离开?
A:如果你不同意你牧师观点,你为啥还待20年?还找他写书? why? what is his
judgment?
B:你不要乱听别人说,obama都说了,他不在?
A:他说啥你都信?他说的都是事实?他说啥,你就跟桌他说?你做science也是这样的?
B:你知道,我roomate么?
A: 知道。
B:他强烈支持obama
A: 他支持,我就一定要支持?我觉得做事应该自己动脑子,不要别人说啥,就是啥!




我真的是开了眼界了!还有这样的,都30多岁了,男的,phd毕业。

你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了,你太不可救了

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Garfield_pipi

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2008-09-10 14:50:00

以下是引用greenflower在2008-9-10 14:48:00的发言:

如果mccain不投机,当年被炒极右派们bs到死,现在还要投其所好
如果palin不是 为什么她要对不管事实的胡说八道,完全根据gop的讲演稿来描绘自己?


搞政治的都投机的说

美国这种两党制这么久
选谁还是靠自己一贯以来坚信的价值观和周围社区和社会的影响啊


 


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purplerain

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2008-09-10 14:51:00

以下是引用bobomay08在2008-9-10 14:33:00的发言:

It is so lucky that the decision of US president is not determined by the Chinese here. Obama presents the american dream: achieving success and reach to the top single handedly even though one is from a poor family or born to be disadvantaged.


 


I can't believe so many Chinese think a old whiteman who may have heart attach anytime during the presidency, and a women who knows nothing more than beauty contest and polar bears, can lead America which has so many troubles right now.


 


If you think democritic policy is too socialism, and bad for the middle class, just take a look at what the Bush administration did to the middle class? Listen a bit carefully about what Obama said about how the life of middle class deteriorate so much during bush's presidency.


 


If you think Asian are superior than black because we score higher, just look at how difficult it is for a blackman to achieve high due to their neighborhood influences and all kinds of discrimination ever since they are born.


 


I can't understand why so many chinese who face a lot of discrimination and poverty everyday as foreigner, want to have someone who is born as senitor's son and billionair's husband and never knows the feeling of property and hardship in life to lead the country.


 


I believe in the smartest and strongest men or women, who born poor and in hardship but achieve success by him or herself should lead US, regardless of his or her color, age and gender.


Chinese are conservative in general because they believe hard work and one pain one gain instead of free lunch falling from the sky. Obama like big goverment (i.e. high tax) which means free lunch without effort for some low income people.


That is why Chinese should  not like him.


 

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