谢谢mm,要是不麻烦的话多贴点文章吧。美国媒体都是犹太人控制的，我觉得实在是不好找客观的文章。
The following links are facts and opinions about the conflict in the region compiled by a very famous Israeli computer scientist (Oded Goldreich):
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/politics.html
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/PS/pi.pdf
The following organization is also Israeli but is against the crimes that Israel has committed:
As for the history of the conflict, one could check the following
http://www.merip.org/palestine-israel_primer/toc-pal-isr-primer.html
Other interesting media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&mode=related&search=
Naom Chomsky is also a good reference.
我发现家里居然有本历史图册啊。贴上一些内容分享。 犹太教最早是在埃及出现的。2nd century BC. 意大利1century AD, spain 200AD, Germany 300AD. 然后有一张图，耶路撒冷是所谓圣地（但是不是国家），Gaza不在其内。132-135AD,罗马人吧犹太人从该地区赶走了。 这个是最早。
现在的问题是，
无论以色列建国合理与否，
其已经是一个既成事实，
而武力战胜以色列又不现实（五次中东战争以色列全部打赢了），
巴勒斯坦人有必要面对这一现实，
法塔赫现在基本上是在走比较现实的土地换和平道路，
以色列也撤出了加沙，
但是哈马斯的崛起改变了这一情况。
I agree with you, Hamas is far from being smart ... they're definitely handling the situation so badly. Palestinian should adopt a much better strategy than Hamas' in order to negociate with the zionists.
The following links are facts and opinions about the conflict in the region compiled by a very famous Israeli computer scientist (Oded Goldreich):
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/politics.html
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/PS/pi.pdf
The following organization is also Israeli but is against the crimes that Israel has committed:
As for the history of the conflict, one could check the following
http://www.merip.org/palestine-israel_primer/toc-pal-isr-primer.html
Other interesting media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&mode=related&search=
Naom Chomsky is also a good reference.
正因为从埃及出现，所以才有《出埃及记》啊，呵呵。
唉，我历史太差。背书来的那些都忘光了。惭愧惭愧。
我发现家里居然有本历史图册啊。贴上一些内容分享。犹太教最早是在埃及出现的。2nd century BC. 意大利1century AD, spain 200AD, Germany 300AD. 然后有一张图，耶路撒冷是所谓圣地（但是不是国家），Gaza不在其内。132-135AD,罗马人吧犹太人从该地区赶走了。这个是最早。
Palestine is the whole land that encloses Jerusalem，Haifa, Tel-aviv, Gaza ... Palestine existed way longer before any Jew stepped in there. BTW Gaza is a much more recent city compared to Jerusalem. Palestinians (pre-Judaisam, Christian and Muslim) have been living in Jerusalem and other neighboring parts for ever.
lg看了这个帖子，跟我说，井盖儿这个男人很无耻。
这是华人，女人的地盘，女人本来就不喜欢琢磨历史，好多人也不太清楚，井盖儿在这里跳什么！真对这个历史问题感兴趣的，去MIT，N多男人在那里讨论呢，讨论得还比较有深度。更不用说上国内一些历史军事的论坛了，多少专业级的ID在那里呢。。井盖儿就在这女人的地盘上蹦达，享受被女人关注的乐趣，很ws。
不是我说的，是lg说的。
Palestine is the whole land that encloses Jerusalem，Haifa, Tel-aviv, Gaza ... Palestine existed way longer before any Jew stepped in there. BTW Gaza is a much more recent city compared to Jerusalem. Palestinians (pre-Judaisam, Christian and Muslim) have been living in Jerusalem and other neighboring parts for ever.
太崇拜了。谢谢。
800-1242，他们主要在Khazaria,我不知道这是哪里，不过貌似蛮北的，今天的法国、德国那部分？然后犹太人就散布各地。 1947-1949，耶路撒冷是所谓international land,加沙是是阿拉伯人的。1949后，以色列拿到了比UN批的多了不少的地。不过加沙还不是以色列的。
关于Jews of Khazaria，
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Maps/Story800.html
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