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Huaren
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2008-11-05 02:54:00

以下是引用as_still_water在2008-11-5 2:43:00的发言:

这个偷换概念了吧.


 


同性恋人群也没有要求被称作直人, 他们是要求他们的婚姻能够合法化.


如果说黄种人之间的婚姻法律不承认, 说你们反正该享受的都享受的到, 犯不着非要争取一个跟白种人婚姻一样的名头, 不然你们就叫黄昏好了, 但是不能算作法律认可的婚姻. 你说你要不要去争取?


 


 


 


这个问题没人提出来过啊,提出来能到投票这一步,可以看看大家怎么想的阿。以前不是不同人种还不能结婚么,后来不是大部分人都转过弯儿了。你说这个不是道德问题,那他就是一个大家心里的一格什么标准,反正是在那儿,不同的人标准肯定不一样,让大家投票不就是最后从众的意思。


就是他要把我们结婚叫hun-yin,我也真不觉得什么,也不反对证书上写xinlang xinniang 要是汉字就更好了。


最后,我们婚姻可以翻成marriage,丈夫是husband,老婆是wife, 小妾不合法了,就算了。


这个两个丈夫非要叫婚姻,还是挺新鲜的。


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2008-11-05 02:55:00

这楼里好多英文阿
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以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 2:53:00的发言:

well, then rethink about using different words in stead of saying that is why we treatly differently from white. If you didn't mean that, then dont' say it.


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I think you should read it more clearly and no need to make childish arguments. 

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2008-11-05 02:55:00

 

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 2:53:00的发言:


以下是引用ranran_sweety在2008-11-5 2:50:00的发言:

Please MM. I thought you are more logical than this.  I think your argument has been arround the issues rather than personal attack.  As I stated earlier, don't twist my words and statements.  I don't want to be called "white", but treated equally. 



well, then rethink about using different words in stead of saying that is why we treatly differently from white. If you didn't mean that, then dont' say it.


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agree, it is quite confusing.

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以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 2:48:00的发言:

Please lecture me what fancy words you are going to use to explain those to kids or how you expect schools to explain. Do not tell me kids won't ask or they will figure out by themselves.


youknow, there are stories like bees and flowers,,,,,


Not sure if they are still in fashion.

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以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 2:48:00的发言:

Please lecture me what fancy words you are going to use to explain those to kids or how you expect schools to explain. Do not tell me kids won't ask or they will figure out by themselves.


I won't because you won't agree with me anyway. 

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以下是引用proserpina在2008-11-5 2:51:00的发言:

What is so different?   50 yrs ago, homosexal was considered immoral.  Who is to say 50 yrs later prostitution wounldn't be included in moral category?   I'm not saying prostitution is equal to gay issue, but only trying to point out moral or not can be vastly different depending on the time in the history. 

yes, i agree with that. You have the right to oppose prop 8. But i also have the right to support it. Just like the evolution of creature, it is the fight between different genes and the environment. Now we are on different sides. You may win at the end. Or i may win at the end. Our society has been more and more open doens't mean that we should go too far. Following your logic, in the future, we may accept marriage between father and daught, between grandma and grandson, whatever relationship you can think of. But not me, not now. And nobody knows what happen at the end. But i do think i can support what i believe in,and surely you can support yours.


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2008-11-05 02:58:00

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 2:50:00的发言:

不同种族的婚姻在中国存在了不知道多少年。跟这个压根不是一回事好不好。

No matter where it has existed, china or u.s., at one time point people had trouble accepting it. 
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以下是引用as_still_water在2008-11-5 2:51:00的发言:

对. 类似的还有不同信仰的人之间的婚姻不被一方的信仰所接受这样的例子


 


历史上,各种文化里,婚姻有没有过被泛指为包括两夫,两妻的概念。


如果没有,这就是引进一个新的概念,我们给他一个新的term,有什么问题呢?

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2008-11-05 03:01:00

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 2:48:00的发言:

Please lecture me what fancy words you are going to use to explain those to kids or how you expect schools to explain. Do not tell me kids won't ask or they will figure out by themselves.

你没救了,我们只是希望你说话文明点, 特别是对小孩的话题,从我看你第一贴就被吓到了.当然我们还是要尊重你的说话方式.IF YOU THINK IT'S OK IT'S YOUR BUSINESS. BUT I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR KIDS. 当然我们没有权利阻止你用任何WORD TO TEACH YOUR KIDS.

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