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Huaren
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2008-11-05 03:22:00

以下是引用page394在2008-11-5 3:19:00的发言:

names represents certain defination.

I'm a girl, not a boy. That's what I am, any inequality between man and woman is not because of the name!

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Well how about suppose you are the greatest artist in the world and people just say that "you are the greatest FEMALE artist in the world"?
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2008-11-05 03:23:00

以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-11-5 3:19:00的发言:

啊?你不会想歪吧?putting money into black hole是指警方花大量人力物力堵prostitution这个洞。


MM,对不起.我想歪了, 今天晚上一开始就被人给带着歪了.
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page394

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2008-11-05 03:24:00

以下是引用dust07在2008-11-5 3:16:00的发言:


mm所有说话的语气就是:我们,as majority, 可以给你们点甜头,但你们go too far, 否则我们就会pissed off。 that's exactly what "non-equal" means. they have the right they should have, but not for us, majority, to entitle them

Homos typically don't have their own children.


They reach to school, and now it backfired.


Most people would not care homomarriage without MA's example. That's what really happened,the prince-prince story and two dads in a family in the curriculum. They, as a group, affect hetero-marriage people's life, affect their children's education. And now it backfired.

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dust07

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2008-11-05 03:25:00

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 3:20:00的发言:

Unfortunately, here in the current system, you need to have the majorty vote to make it leagal. This is how it works now. Just like, for ppl who vote for Maccain, they have to accept that Obama is the next president even they are pissed off.


这是事实,现状。
我的立场就是,咱是majority没错,但是别somehow站在居高临下的立场, be respectful and be humble. as majority, we are already privileged, have compassion to those who don't.
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page394

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2008-11-05 03:26:00

以下是引用Ebichu在2008-11-5 3:22:00的发言:

Well how about suppose you are the greatest artist in the world and people just say that "you are the greatest FEMALE artist in the world"?

It's happening everyday.


I do not resent the word "female" for that.


BTW, I like your example, it's very friendly. We should all discuss like this and keep the friendly atmosphere. I should learn from you on this.


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2008-11-05 03:29:00

以下是引用youxi在2008-11-5 3:23:00的发言:


MM,对不起.我想歪了, 今天晚上一开始就被人给带着歪了.



此hole非彼hole

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angeliali

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2008-11-05 03:30:00

以下是引用Ebichu在2008-11-5 3:22:00的发言:

Well how about suppose you are the greatest artist in the world and people just say that "you are the greatest FEMALE artist in the world"?

well, that sounds that same to me if you put MALE or YOUNG beofre artist.


The greatest FEMAE artist != The great MALE artist != The great young artist !=The greatest artiest. You simply change the representiveness of that term by using any adjective before "artist". But if one is the greatest artist, it doesn't matter whether he is male, female, young or old, asian or european.


 


 


 


 

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Ebichu

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2008-11-05 03:33:00

To those who don't mind being called female in my example, there is an inherent distinction by adding "female" into the sentence, it essentially syas that you are the best in your category (i.e. female) when you are better than ALL other artists in the world, male/female/young/old, whatever
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page394

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2008-11-05 03:33:00

以下是引用dust07在2008-11-5 3:25:00的发言:


这是事实,现状。
我的立场就是,咱是majority没错,但是别somehow站在居高临下的立场, be respectful and be humble. as majority, we are already privileged, have compassion to those who don't.

children from the majority heteromarriage are vulnerable and can not be considered as privileged.


Again, I would think most people would vote no, if not for the MA example.


Observing what's happening when homomarriage is legistated, many parents are not willing to risk their children's education on some school head's hollow promise. They want their voice heard.


A yes may hurt some nice homo couple, and I feel sorry for them. But a no may risk a prince-prince story at school. There's example there. Too much risk.

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2008-11-05 03:38:00

以下是引用dust07在2008-11-5 3:25:00的发言:


这是事实,现状。
我的立场就是,咱是majority没错,但是别somehow站在居高临下的立场, be respectful and be humble. as majority, we are already privileged, have compassion to those who don't.

没有人要居高临下,如果你硬要这样想,是因为你suppose他们是把自己放在下面的位置。Be respectful and be humble mean that you don't force other to follow the way you behavior. I don't force them to behavior the way i am, i just hope that they don't force me to accept something i don't believe in. I surely support them to have all the leagal right that marriaged couple can get, but not under the same name. as in my belief, marriage is between man and woman and between husband and wife, not between party A and party B. 


 

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