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nyvivi

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2012-09-04 15:25:00

 天,原来40年前就下架了
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2012-09-04 15:53:00

真吓人,还是顺应自然,该吐就吐好了...
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2012-09-04 15:55:00

只知道药学phd跟我说是药三分毒。大部分临床做5年。但是10年以后会出啥事就不确定了。
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flyboyxiao

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2012-09-04 18:59:00

这个是美国FDA最引以为骄傲的一个例子了,该药因为FDA的regulation没能在美国上市
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2012-09-04 19:32:00

以下是引用manoe在9/4/2012 2:58:00 PM的发言:

 


The patients who died during a clinical trial does not euqal to patients who died BECAUSE of the clinical trial. If a cancer patient died during a clinical trial, it is very likely due to the disease itself than due to the drug. Annual death of 221 in India due to clinical trials is definitely an exagerrated number (most of the deaths are not related to the drug). There are IRB and regulatory agencies in India as well. Although they are not as organized and experienced as FDA, they are not completely ignorant either.


 


To be approved by FDA, the trials has to enrolled some patients from US, in most cases. In many cases, the majority of the patients are from US. But data management and programming work can be outsourced to other countries, such as India and China.


 


By the way, the drug that caused the disaster for pregnant woman was never approved by FDA and never sold in US. It was only approved and sold in Europe. It was not approved by FDA for safety concerns. It was often cited as an example to show the expertise and competence of FDA. FDA is very found of themself for that case.


Thanks for the clearance. FDA of USA is really tough. Often the new drugs got accepted in EU countries first. FDA in USA always asks for more experiments.

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2012-09-04 19:33:00

同学你认真了啊,论坛上嘛,啥opinion都有的。你俩的逻辑体系不一样的,没有争辩的基础啊~
以下是引用briel在9/4/2012 1:59:00 PM 的发言:
很好,我是井底之蛙,你不是;我不懂科学,我也不理解你把这些事物放在一起的逻辑性,如何说明了中医的严谨和西医的不严谨。咱们思维不一样,你这个懂得多的别跟我这不懂科学的死磕了,说多了我还是不理解你的思维,请忽略我吧,谢谢!


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黎藜

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2012-09-04 19:37:00

 总之能不吃还是不吃的好
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pinbear

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2012-09-04 20:56:00

我觉得她会建议等死!
以下是引用Julianne在9/4/2012 10:59:00 AM 的发言:

what 药 do you recommand??



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pinbear

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2012-09-04 20:57:00

生出来不好也不能一下子找出罪魁祸首。
以下是引用scxt在9/4/2012 11:57:00 AM 的发言:
这个不是怀孕的才要吃吗?孩子一生不就看出来副作用了吗?为啥要等几十年才能看出副作用?是人体测试的样板太少了?


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pinbear

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2012-09-04 20:58:00

这是另外一个药
以下是引用aprilskyever在9/4/2012 1:41:00 PM 的发言:

还有女儿得阴道癌的。

这种跨度更大,2,30年后才发作,没法做实验啊。

谁一辈子的时间 搞一个研究?万一没结果,喝西北风啊

 

我自己就是phd in toxicology area,但我不信任何毒理研究。

反正没事不要乱吃药。

天然的比合成的好。

 

 

 

 



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