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Huaren
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liumao

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2008-09-12 23:01:00

以下是引用Caffeine在2008-9-12 22:51:00的发言:

often times it's pressure too. quant, if work at risk, doesn't get paid as much (some banks pay more for risk positions, but not all). But why did they change major? many had families. The wives are H4s or F2s. They have kids. They need to support the family. Often times it's pressure. If there is a way to make more money by hard working, why not? right? There is nothing wrong with it. Those are our own ordinary Chinese people I'm talking about. If anybody thinks that those people deserve it, please, come out, say it to somebody who lost his/her job in her face. How dare you?!


and fyi, we don't expect to get bonus this yr. we feel lucky to have jobs.


 


i totally agree with you on this. that was why i gave the earthquake metaphor. unfortunately some people obviously don't get it.

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2008-09-12 23:01:00

以下是引用Caffeine在2008-9-12 22:51:00的发言:

often times it's pressure too. quant, if work at risk, doesn't get paid as much (some banks pay more for risk positions, but not all). But why did they change major? many had families. The wives are H4s or F2s. They have kids. They need to support the family. Often times it's pressure. If there is a way to make more money by hard working, why not? right? There is nothing wrong with it. Those are our own ordinary Chinese people I'm talking about. If anybody thinks that those people deserve it, please, come out, say it to somebody who lost his/her job in her face. How dare you?!


and fyi, we don't expect to get bonus this yr. we feel lucky to have jobs.


我对失业的不管之前钱多钱少,都是非常同情的。
总觉得中国人在国外都是不容易的。
每个人在别人面前光漂,付出的往往是别人看不到的
我相信天下没有不付出就有回报的好事。
一份工作的工资多少都是有原因的,工资高的要么有特殊的特长技能,要么工作时间长,要么工作环境不好,要么会接除有害健康的物质,要么责任重大,等等,总之不会是无猿无故的,资本家都是贼坏贼坏的。。。

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油菜露

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2008-09-12 23:04:00

以下是引用maomaotou在2008-9-11 22:53:00的发言:

三月份的时候就不行了。不肯贱卖,所以拖到现在。


我觉得它当初早点卖,是不是不会这么惨?

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angeliali

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2008-09-12 23:08:00

以下是引用Caffeine在2008-9-12 22:10:00的发言:

By working 12+ hour/day......


most of faculty work more hrs than that but only get a small fraction of that ....

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liumao

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2008-09-12 23:08:00

以下是引用油菜露在2008-9-12 23:04:00的发言:

我觉得它当初早点卖,是不是不会这么惨?


我觉得说不好,,,,大坑没见底,FED也不BACK,敢出手的不多,价格也低不了,不一定卖得出去.哪个公司会在股票20块的时候按15块卖出去捏.

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liumao

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2008-09-12 23:10:00

以下是引用angeliali在2008-9-12 23:08:00的发言:

most of faculty work more hrs than that but only get a small fraction of that ....


any job has a market price...it reflects the perceived value of that job. it is not about work hours. some busboys work 12 hours/day too.


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-9-12 23:10:01编辑过]

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油菜露

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2008-09-12 23:11:00

以下是引用米虫在2008-9-12 8:45:00的发言:

bear产品太单一化了。。


leh 不一样,在bond mkt上也算重量级的market maker。


很多人不见得就愿意看见这部分消失。。。。


 


还有一个,bear在98年没有攒下人品。。要不是jpm和他们risk混在一起太多,未必会出手。。。


我家ZT也这么说。他说好多人也说,是政府挽救了JPM。

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angeliali

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2008-09-12 23:11:00

以下是引用liumao在2008-9-12 23:10:00的发言:

any job has a market price...it the perceived value of that job. it is not about work hours. some busboys work 12 hours/day too.


I agree with you actually, I just use that as an example to show that more working hrs doesn't necessary lead to higher pay....


 


And by the way, bus drivers can actually earn more than a entry level faculty if they work more than 12 hrs.


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-9-12 23:14:41编辑过]

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油菜露

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2008-09-12 23:26:00

我觉得是就算LEH TAKE 太多的RISK,他们不应该挣那么多钱。但是看着一个100多年的大公司落到这个地步,还是难过的。而且经济如果没有这些融资公司也是根本不行的。
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Caffeine

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2008-09-12 23:28:00

以下是引用liumao在2008-9-12 23:01:00的发言:

 


i totally agree with you on this. that was why i gave the earthquake metaphor. unfortunately some people obviously don't get it.


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