Save all the argument, face and accept the fact - Israel is a country recognized by the UN, Israeli embassy to China is right across street from the new US embassy in Beijing. Check out the map. Palestine is not a country, the Muslim treat their women and children like dogs, they train their children to become soldiers someday fly planes into buildings to kill people who are not Muslim.
Israel will win, the Jews will win. Jerusalem belongs to Israel, Jerusalem belongs to the Jews.
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-1-7 8:04:05编辑过]
Sorry for being too rough in answering your post! I used quite some strong terms that I could have easily avoided. Unfortunately I do not have online documents that support my claim (150 years) ... everything that you may find online about Jerusalem is already written by pro-Israelis. But I will promise to spend more time on looking for the documents (and if needed, I will scan them and put them online). The kingdom of Israel existed for 600 years but was not centered in Jerusalem only: Hebron was the capital for most of the time and then Jerusalem for a minor period. Anyway, wikipedia, although, does not agree with my views, reports that the whole life of the kingdom is about 600 years (and mostly concentrated in Jerusalem) which is honestly not that long period relatively to the time Muslim spent in Jerusalem (sine year 638). BTW, Palestenian Muslims are Arab of culture and mostly Phoenician ethnically (group that existed in Palestine way before the Jews entered that area). Here is something from Wikipedia:
"Jerusalem is considered Islam's third holiest city after Mecca and Medina. Among Muslims of an earlier era, it was referred to as al-Bayt al-Muqaddas; later, it became known as al-Quds al-Sharif. In 638, the Islamic Caliphate extended its dominion to Jerusalem.[52] With the Arab conquest, Jews were allowed back into the city.[53] The Rashidun caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab signed a treaty with Monophysite Christian Patriarch Sophronius, assuring him that Jerusalem's Christian holy places and population would be protected under Muslim rule.[54] Umar was led to the Foundation Stone on the Temple Mount, which he cleared of refuse in preparation for building a mosque. According to the Gaullic bishop Arculf, who lived in Jerusalem from 679-688, the Mosque of Umar was a rectangular wooden structure built over ruins which could accommodated 3,000 worshipers.[55] The Umayyad caliph Abd al-Malik commissioned the construction of the Dome of the Rock in the late 7th century.[56] The 10th century historian al-Muqaddasi writes that Abd al-Malik built the shrine in order to compete in grandeur of Jerusalem's monumental churches.[55] Over the next four hundred years, Jerusalem's prominence diminished as Arab powers in the region jockeyed for control.[57]"
别的不谈，既然没有supporting documents，这个150年哪来的？犹太人早就占据了耶路撒冷，然后公元前1000建成圣城，然后灭国，又居住了几百年，你好好研究研究吧。
你这一段文章是638开始的，这个时候犹太人都给赶出去了，当然就不是最主要居民了。这个能解释150年？你要有牙齿的话，还是好好留住多咬咬自己吧。。。
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-1-7 8:07:03编辑过]
别的不谈，既然没有supporting documents，这个150年哪来的？犹太人早就占据了耶路撒冷，然后公元前1000建成圣城，然后灭国，又居住了几百年，你好好研究研究吧。
你这一段文章是638开始的，这个时候犹太人都给赶出去了，当然就不是最主要居民了。这个能解释150年？你要有牙齿的话，还是好好留住多咬咬自己吧。。。
Aren't the left wing libs incredible? They are way too certain about things that are not certain, they just won't stop their little left wing propaganda machine.
What are the left wing liberals?
They love the Musilim, and they hate the Jews.
They love those fly planes into buildings, and they hate those fight for liberty.
They love Obama and his lying thugs, and they hate President Bush who kept the country safe for 7 years.
They love Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and they hate Israel, the United States, the United Kingdoms and South Korea.
They love lesbians and the gay, and they hate people who promote traditional family values.
......
The Left Wing Libs Tax People to Work Hard to Spread Wealth Around to Those Don't Work, Don't Pay Taxes, but Live on Government Checks - As Long As They Vote for the Dems.
Good Luck Guys, Hope You'll Get to Keep Some Change in Your Pocket after "CHANGE: YES WE CAN"
Aren't the left wing libs incredible? They are way too certain about things that are not certain, they just won't stop their little left wing propaganda machine.
What are the left wing liberals?
They love the Musilim, and they hate the Jews.
They love those fly planes into buildings, and they hate those fight for liberty.
They love Obama and his lying thugs, and they hate President Bush who kept the country safe for 7 years.
They love Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and they hate Israel, the United States, the United Kingdoms and South Korea.
They love lesbians and the gay, and they hate people who promote traditional family values.
......
The Left Wing Libs Tax People to Work Hard to Spread Wealth Around to Those Don't Work, Don't Pay Taxes, but Live on Government Checks - As Long As They Vote for the Dems.
Good Luck Guys, Hope You'll Get to Keep Some Change in Your Pocket after "CHANGE: YES WE CAN"
这个井盖子同学，稍安勿躁。
以色列人几千年前也是从埃及出来灭了不少国家，但还是给人灭了国。现在的巴勒斯坦人其实跟当年的犹太人很相似。他们在这个地区生活了一千多年，长久以来把此地当成自己的家园和圣地。尤其是现在他们也跟当年的犹太人一样力量薄弱没有自卫能力。犹太人想要把他们赶出去。看看当年犹太人为了保家卫国付出了多少生命，所以巴勒斯坦人一定会一样付出血的代价。
历史就是这么丑陋，说不清道不明，完全靠拳头。所以中国要走强国之路，不要尽挨拳头。当年外蒙古有苏联撑腰，还不是就成了？现在要是还跟清末一样弱，新疆西藏甚至更多地方呢？看看中国历代的疆域图，感慨一定会很多啊。
Aren't the left wing libs incredible? They are way too certain about things that are not certain, they just won't stop their little left wing propaganda machine.
What are the left wing liberals?
They love the Musilim, and they hate the Jews.
They love those fly planes into buildings, and they hate those fight for liberty.
They love Obama and his lying thugs, and they hate President Bush who kept the country safe for 7 years.
They love Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and they hate Israel, the United States, the United Kingdoms and South Korea.
They love lesbians and the gay, and they hate people who promote traditional family values.
......
The Left Wing Libs Tax People to Work Hard to Spread Wealth Around to Those Don't Work, Don't Pay Taxes, but Live on Government Checks - As Long As They Vote for the Dems.
Good Luck Guys, Hope You'll Get to Keep Some Change in Your Pocket after "CHANGE: YES WE CAN"
虽然中东亚细亚一带历史比较乱,不过您要是把美国一些政治常识拿出来瞎鼓捣,还是很难吓唬人民群众的
Save all the argument, face and accept the fact - Israel is a country recognized by the UN, Israeli embassy to China is right across street from the new US embassy in Beijing. Check out the map. Palestine is not a country, the Muslim treat their women and children like dogs, they train their children to become soldiers someday fly planes into buildings to kill people who are not Muslim.
Israel will win, the Jews will win. Jerusalem belongs to Israel, Jerusalem belongs to the Jews.
不过你对犹太人太不了解了。其实犹太教和穆斯林对待妇女都非常相似的（本来就同源么）。犹太教保持的比较好的，hasidic jews（纽约有很多很多），现如今都还不允许女人露任何皮肤。要穿长裙和袜子（丑死了）。女人的地位很低，连结婚都是安排的。结婚之前没有date,结婚之后做爱没有前戏，男人直接泄愤外加播种。目的就是生小犹太。这些，你可以在New York Magazine看到很翔实的报道。我很不喜欢穆斯林这些对待妇女儿童的习俗，但是了解了犹太人对待妇女儿童的事迹之后，更觉得这是一些披着羊皮的狼。
其实不就是
1）犹太人有钱， 可以让英美帮他们
2）方一个犹太国家在阿拉伯国家中间，然后中东就可以乱，然后其他人就获利了
到底了
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