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lhmaymay9889

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2007-11-09 16:14:00


李安安排邝去kiss下王,在你们眼里这是李安悲悯

其实李安安排王很怨的说:“3年前你本可以的”

就是生怕观众看不懂王加之的怨

这跟他去把王加之身世孤伶,亲戚冷漠塑造的路数是一样的

生怕这个lust的程度不够深

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疏影暗香

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2007-11-09 16:14:00

以下是引用manoe在2007-11-9 16:12:00的发言:

    Those are not for romantic purpose.  He was just trying to explicitly demonstrate more inner thinking of Jiazhi, since he was afraid that some of the

audiences don't understand what was going on with her.

yes.....至少这个我看明白了. 不算太不合格的观众,尽管是个BIASED的观众.

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以下是引用manoe在2007-11-9 16:03:00的发言:

It is not because they tend to "think too much", it is just based on different level of tolerance in  controversial topics.

 I don't watch the movie and just automatically get so offended because the students were portrait badly, I mean that is besides the whole point of the movie already. I guess it really varies by what background you have and how you always view the world. And you are right, I can think of it is as tolerance level, because some people always get offended where as I just don't see where the offense is coming from. 

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2007-11-09 16:16:00

以下是引用daka在2007-11-9 15:45:00的发言:

其实从头到尾,我没有觉得WJZ是不可原谅的,亦没有觉得易先生是多么人人得而诛之。他们俩的行为,虽然我都不认可,但是我都觉得是可以理解的。但是我不能接受的,是李安在花了大功夫刻画WJZ和易先生的“人性”的同时,也许是为了衬托他们二人,却是简单,粗暴的“非人性化”了其他所有的爱国学生。

我觉得我以及其他几个人一再重复的就是这个观点,但是某人或者是选择型失明,或者曲解这个意思,耸肩。

蓝字部分,别人不知道,我是没从电影里看出来,要怎么同意这个观点?
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以下是引用anzi在2007-11-9 16:14:00的发言:

 I don't watch the movie and just automatically get so offended because the students were portrait badly, I mean that is besides the whole point of the movie already. I guess it really varies by what background you have and how you always view the world. And you are right, I can think of it is as tolerance level, because some people always get offended where as I just don't see where the offense is coming from. 

They have certain belief that they don't want to be contradicted or even doubted. I understand that.

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lhmaymay9889

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2007-11-09 16:18:00

女人的lust 是与生俱来的人性

千百年都没变过

不需要身世孤伶,被人迫害,冷漠虐待,很自然的人性反映

李安却生怕主题不突出,作出一个个可怜background让大家去体会
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anzi

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2007-11-09 16:18:00

以下是引用manoe在2007-11-9 16:12:00的发言:

    Those are not for romantic purpose.  He was just trying to explicitly demonstrate more inner thinking of Jiazhi, since he was afraid that some of the

audiences don't understand what was going on with her.

Right agree. I still think he is a very romantic director :)
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2007-11-09 16:18:00

有句话怎么说的,秀才造反,三年不成。
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2007-11-09 16:19:00

以下是引用疏影暗香在2007-11-9 16:14:00的发言:

yes.....至少这个我看明白了. 不算太不合格的观众,尽管是个BIASED的观众.

If he left that portion out, I believe you still understand the movie and won't change your interpretation. That is why I think it is redundant.

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以下是引用manoe在2007-11-9 16:08:00的发言:

   I didn't dare to say that.  I bet they definitely don't agree. They will say we are biased. Let's just say we have disagreements on certain "truths".

"I think Ang Lee gave more sympathy to these students"...That is why I think some of the details in the movie is redundant and may weaken the movie.

it's an unavoidable fact that everyone is biased under the impact of ideoloy, one of the functions of artwork is to lead us to be less biased, to see more possibilities of the world, of the human beings. anyway, it's gone too far away from the movie,  forget it.
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