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Huaren
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lhmaymay9889

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2007-11-09 16:23:00

lust 不需要被迫害,冷漠虐待,才能反映出来

就跟断背山是部分人天生的一样,非常自然

不需要是因为去塑造过去曾经遭受很多异性感情折磨,才变成断背山

这么说,你们可以理解么?
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anzi

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2007-11-09 16:23:00

以下是引用jhsu在2007-11-9 16:16:00的发言:

蓝字部分,别人不知道,我是没从电影里看出来,要怎么同意这个观点?

haha.. same here, never even noticed it until people were mad about it. Well as Manoe said we have different tolerance level, and right now I feel my level just increased :)
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2007-11-09 16:25:00

以下是引用lilyppbb在2007-11-9 16:20:00的发言:

it's an unavoidable fact that everyone is biased under the impact of ideoloy, one of the functions of artwork is to lead us to be less biased, to see more possibilities of the world, of the human beings. anyway, it's gone too far away from the movie,  forget it.

But it could be tortous and confusing. People don't want to be bothered. Simple people live a happier life.

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2007-11-09 16:26:00

以下是引用疏影暗香在2007-11-9 16:14:00的发言:

yes.....至少这个我看明白了. 不算太不合格的观众,尽管是个BIASED的观众.

我觉得,所谓的争议,很大程度上还是在于国家民族大义这个底线上。你觉得断背山两个为了爱情、背叛妻儿家庭的男人,是值得同情的,但一个为了爱情、不要国家民族大义的女人,是不值得同情的,这个概括确切么?
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anzi

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2007-11-09 16:26:00

以下是引用lilyppbb在2007-11-9 16:20:00的发言:

it's an unavoidable fact that everyone is biased under the impact of ideoloy, one of the functions of artwork is to lead us to be less biased, to see more possibilities of the world, of the human beings. anyway, it's gone too far away from the movie,  forget it.

Hey.. that is very profound, don't forget it! Elaborate! I completely agree, I want people to open their mind and just see the story for itself without carrying a judgemental mind.

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lhmaymay9889

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2007-11-09 16:27:00

我老早就说了,跟张爱玲一样的某些人自以为别人simple,自己才眼光深邃

其实最后发现跟张爱玲一样,自己才是那个不懂生活的人
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lilyppbb

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2007-11-09 16:29:00

以下是引用manoe在2007-11-9 16:25:00的发言:

But it could be tortous and confusing. People don't want to be bothered. Simple people live a happier life.

yes, that's why people like hollywood movies, to let them escape from the cruel reality, even for a while. 

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-11-9 16:30:30编辑过]

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2007-11-09 16:30:00

为爱情背叛家庭,又没有害死很多人

爱情不幸福离婚得人也一大堆,没有什么了不起的

你们怎么老一副看不起别人,觉得别人simple没眼光没深度不宽容的神情
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2007-11-09 16:31:00

以下是引用lilyppbb在2007-11-9 16:26:00的发言:

我觉得,所谓的争议,很大程度上还是在于国家民族大义这个底线上。你觉得断背山两个为了爱情、背叛妻儿家庭的男人,是值得同情的,但一个为了爱情、不要国家民族大义的女人,是不值得同情的,这个概括确切么?

exactly... these two movies both show flawed people who make mistakes, caused a lot of pain, but hopefully you don't just say they deserved it. There was a message to sympathize, but if you are a homo-phobic or a extreme patriotic(whatever) ..you are already stuck in a narrow biased tunnel. It is a brave gesture to make these movies and that's why I enjoy them so much.
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2007-11-09 16:32:00

说句不好听得,人人都知道世界上有阳光花朵也有狗屎

看见狗屎,就老拿出来炫耀自己眼光深邃,

这也是很装B的


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