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Huaren
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Hesterhql

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2024-11-08 09:18:36

红州女性被一大堆孩子套牢,根本没有精力和时间关心自我,算了吧,别替别人操心了。 尽量女性避免去深红州. 这块土地上人民思想,就配得上他们所受的苦难。 多赚钱,别让自己在最底层。 这四年八成要和中国一样卷起来。
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2024-11-08 09:23:54

Fifty-seven percent of voters approved the ballot initiative in Florida, three percentage points short of passing. Florida voted down the initiative even as voters there favor legal abortion by 65%. Among supporters of legal abortion, 14% voted against the amendment, according to preliminary exit poll results.

没人分析短的这3%吗?是女性没出来投票?还有,为啥支持合法堕胎但是却反对这个法案?搞清楚了下次好再投啊!

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thymesu

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2024-11-08 10:27:36

查了一下,佛州这次可能是最好的一次机会,以后更难,可能公投的机会都没有。

In Florida, filing an amendment to adjust state laws or the constitution on issues like abortion is possible, but it comes with a rigorous process due to specific petition and voting requirements. Here’s an overview of the steps and challenges:

1. Drafting and Approval Process

  • Drafting: Proponents need to draft the amendment language carefully. Florida’s Supreme Court reviews proposed amendment language to ensure it adheres to the "single-subject rule" (limiting the amendment to one main issue) and is clear and unambiguous. Any ambiguity could lead the court to reject the amendment.
  • Attorney General Review: The amendment must then be reviewed by Florida’s Attorney General, who can raise concerns before the Supreme Court review.

2. Gathering Signatures

  • Signature Requirement: To get an amendment on the ballot, petitioners must collect signatures from registered voters equaling at least 8% of the votes cast in the last presidential election. For the 2024 ballot, this translates to over 891,000 signatures.
  • Geographic Distribution: The signatures must also come from at least half of Florida’s congressional districts (14 out of 28 districts), ensuring statewide support.

3. Ballot Placement and Campaigning

  • Verification: Each signature must be verified, which can be time-consuming and costly.
  • Campaigning: Even if the amendment qualifies for the ballot, proponents face the hurdle of Florida’s 60% supermajority requirement for passage. This requires significant campaigning and funding to secure broad support, often costing millions of dollars.

4. Potential Opposition

  • Opposition Campaigns: Well-funded opposition groups may challenge the amendment through public campaigns or legal challenges, adding another layer of difficulty.

This multi-step process makes it challenging to file and pass amendments in Florida, particularly on divisive issues like abortion, where broad consensus is hard to achieve.

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2024-11-08 13:08:14

thymesu 发表于 2024-11-08 10:27

查了一下,佛州这次可能是最好的一次机会,以后更难,可能公投的机会都没有。

In Florida, filing an amendment to adjust state laws or the constitution on issues like abortion is possible, but it comes with a rigorous process due to specific petition and voting requirements. Here’s an overview of the steps and challenges:

1. Drafting and Approval Process

  • Drafting: Proponents need to draft the amendment language carefully. Florida’s Supreme Court reviews proposed amendment language to ensure it adheres to the "single-subject rule" (limiting the amendment to one main issue) and is clear and unambiguous. Any ambiguity could lead the court to reject the amendment.
  • Attorney General Review: The amendment must then be reviewed by Florida’s Attorney General, who can raise concerns before the Supreme Court review.

2. Gathering Signatures

  • Signature Requirement: To get an amendment on the ballot, petitioners must collect signatures from registered voters equaling at least 8% of the votes cast in the last presidential election. For the 2024 ballot, this translates to over 891,000 signatures.
  • Geographic Distribution: The signatures must also come from at least half of Florida’s congressional districts (14 out of 28 districts), ensuring statewide support.

3. Ballot Placement and Campaigning

  • Verification: Each signature must be verified, which can be time-consuming and costly.
  • Campaigning: Even if the amendment qualifies for the ballot, proponents face the hurdle of Florida’s 60% supermajority requirement for passage. This requires significant campaigning and funding to secure broad support, often costing millions of dollars.

4. Potential Opposition

  • Opposition Campaigns: Well-funded opposition groups may challenge the amendment through public campaigns or legal challenges, adding another layer of difficulty.

This multi-step process makes it challenging to file and pass amendments in Florida, particularly on divisive issues like abortion, where broad consensus is hard to achieve.


佛州那些老不死的红脖子哪会管年轻人的死活

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smartshanshan

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2024-11-08 13:41:42

snowerrrr 发表于 2024-11-08 09:23

Fifty-seven percent of voters approved the ballot initiative in Florida, three percentage points short of passing. Florida voted down the initiative even as voters there favor legal abortion by 65%. Among supporters of legal abortion, 14% voted against the amendment, according to preliminary exit poll results.

没人分析短的这3%吗?是女性没出来投票?还有,为啥支持合法堕胎但是却反对这个法案?搞清楚了下次好再投啊!


这次十分语焉不详的,很多人不喜欢这个bill的用词。我说下次能不能抄袭一下过了的州的语言啊……

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smartshanshan

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2024-11-08 13:42:54

thymesu 发表于 2024-11-08 10:27

查了一下,佛州这次可能是最好的一次机会,以后更难,可能公投的机会都没有。

In Florida, filing an amendment to adjust state laws or the constitution on issues like abortion is possible, but it comes with a rigorous process due to specific petition and voting requirements. Here’s an overview of the steps and challenges:

1. Drafting and Approval Process

  • Drafting: Proponents need to draft the amendment language carefully. Florida’s Supreme Court reviews proposed amendment language to ensure it adheres to the "single-subject rule" (limiting the amendment to one main issue) and is clear and unambiguous. Any ambiguity could lead the court to reject the amendment.
  • Attorney General Review: The amendment must then be reviewed by Florida’s Attorney General, who can raise concerns before the Supreme Court review.

2. Gathering Signatures

  • Signature Requirement: To get an amendment on the ballot, petitioners must collect signatures from registered voters equaling at least 8% of the votes cast in the last presidential election. For the 2024 ballot, this translates to over 891,000 signatures.
  • Geographic Distribution: The signatures must also come from at least half of Florida’s congressional districts (14 out of 28 districts), ensuring statewide support.

3. Ballot Placement and Campaigning

  • Verification: Each signature must be verified, which can be time-consuming and costly.
  • Campaigning: Even if the amendment qualifies for the ballot, proponents face the hurdle of Florida’s 60% supermajority requirement for passage. This requires significant campaigning and funding to secure broad support, often costing millions of dollars.

4. Potential Opposition

  • Opposition Campaigns: Well-funded opposition groups may challenge the amendment through public campaigns or legal challenges, adding another layer of difficulty.

This multi-step process makes it challenging to file and pass amendments in Florida, particularly on divisive issues like abortion, where broad consensus is hard to achieve.


这次也经历了这些啊,一个本村民主党妹纸说四年后要再战,不会放弃的

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smartshanshan

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2024-11-08 13:47:13

大家不要气馁。我家大娃说了,4年后有他一票支持妇女权益;4年后不过的话,我女儿说了8年后还可以加上她一票。我的很多朋友会动员自己的子女支持这项权益,要相信佛罗里达人民会觉醒的

Huaren
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purplebasil

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2024-11-08 13:57:08

大家不要气馁。我家大娃说了,4年后有他一票支持妇女权益;4年后不过的话,我女儿说了8年后还可以加上她一票。我的很多朋友会动员自己的子女支持这项权益,要相信佛罗里达人民会觉醒的


smartshanshan 发表于 2024-11-08 13:47

不要放弃! 你们知道妇女参政是什么时候开始提出来的吗? 独立战争的时候 John Adams 的太太 Abigail Adams 在给他丈夫的信里就已经提到了, 没错, 那时候美国还没有独立。而赋予女性选举权的 19th Amendment是1919年6月4号通过的。立法不容易, 州里的斗争和联邦的斗争要同时展开, 不能轻易放弃。

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purplebasil

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2024-11-08 13:59:49

star1991 发表于 2024-11-08 08:54

选哈里斯也保证不了堕胎权啊,要两院在手,参院还要60,奥巴马刚上任,两院在手,参院都快60了,是最好的机会立法,民主党不是也没立法吗?提都没提过吧。还有dreamer, 一直拿着来吊着拉丁裔,竞选说是最重要的事,上台就忘了。在州范围立法哪就简单多了啊。AZ 选了川普,也通过了堕胎权,不矛盾啊


是的 AZ证明了选民们可以既要GOP又要堕胎权 这是DEM最害怕的

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Huaren
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purplebasil

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2024-11-08 14:01:44

红州女性被一大堆孩子套牢,根本没有精力和时间关心自我,算了吧,别替别人操心了。 尽量女性避免去深红州. 这块土地上人民思想,就配得上他们所受的苦难。 多赚钱,别让自己在最底层。 这四年八成要和中国一样卷起来。
Hesterhql 发表于 2024-11-08 09:18

看你这居高临下的口气, 啧啧

FL有57%支持堕胎松绑, 另外通过的7个州也有红州, 这些选票难道是蓝州人民替她们投的?

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