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Huaren
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sunkiss

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2016-04-15 14:45:18

这个解释靠谱
Huaren
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fucka

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2016-04-15 14:47:30

我觉得没错, 你ira是tax deferred, 就是没收税, 你convert到roth ira, roth ira是税后的,这个5500是应该收税的,所以8606 的15项是5500, 只收了你一次税啊。

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标题写了backdoor ira啊,lz的5500没拿到tax benefit,没有少交过一分钱的税
楼主说的处理方式是对的,这个会计师所不够专业
Huaren
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nitrogensec

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2016-04-15 14:50:27

自己用turbo tax 几十块钱就搞定了。back door不需要再交税了。但是软件里也要选对选项才能算对。Google一下就可以了。很多tax firm季度性抱个人稅的都是临时培训上岗的。水平良莠不齐。自己的税还是自己花点时间搞明白。每年都用同一软件,很容易就搞定了。
Huaren
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fucka

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2016-04-15 14:53:49

是的,turbotax会知道这是non-deductable IRA thus no tax increase 那些Tax firm其实并不靠谱
Huaren
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bjjww

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2016-04-15 14:58:29

存着,以后慢慢学习 最怕tax 头疼
Let's suppose that you're 30 years old, you don't have any traditional IRA accounts, you make a maximum contribution of $5,500 to a traditional IRA, you're covered by a retirement plan at work, and your MAGI exceeds the level for receiving a deduction for your contribution. After your nondeductible traditional IRA contribution has been credited to your account, you can immediately do a Roth IRA conversion. Since there are no earnings, 100% of your conversion will be nontaxable. This is referred to as a backdoor Roth IRA conversion. ========== Don't forget about other traditional IRA accounts Let's assume in our previous example that you have another traditional IRA account that was rolled over from a 401(k) plan with a value of $100,000. Would 100% of your backdoor Roth IRA conversion still be nontaxable? The nontaxable amount of your Roth IRA conversion would be equal to your conversion of $5,500 multiplied by a fraction equal to your nondeductible contribution of $5,500 divided by the total value of all of your traditional IRA accounts of $105,500, or 5,500 x $5,500/$105,500, or $287. This results in a taxable amount of $5,213 ($5,500 - $287), or 95% of your conversion amount. Quite a different result compared with the situation where you had no other traditional IRA accounts. The backdoor Roth IRA conversion is a great strategy for transferring a nondeductible tax-deferred IRA contribution into a tax-free situation provided that (a) you have no other traditional IRA funds, or (b) the value of your other IRA's is less than or equal to the basis in your IRA accounts. yshe 发表于 4/15/2016 1:51:00 下午 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=71418111&postid=71418111#71418111]

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blueclue

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2016-04-15 15:01:30

回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2000515&postid=71418964#71418964]30楼fucka的帖子[/url] 义务的? 这种事情还是不要做,那么多人的social都给你知道了...
Huaren
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天子呼来不上床

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2016-04-15 15:02:44

my financial adviser commented that CPAs usually don't know about back door IRA. But what can LZ do now?
Caprisunny 发表于 4/15/2016 2:30:35 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2000515&postid=71418737#71418737]

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我只能等cpa有空了以后再跟他们吵啊。
反正去年前年的肯定要amend,希望他们承认错误,今年开始不要再错了。如果他们死不承认错误,我只好以后不做 conversion了。
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fucka

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2016-04-15 15:06:10

回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2000515&postid=71418964#71418964]30楼fucka的帖子[/url]

义务的?
这种事情还是不要做,那么多人的social都给你知道了...
blueclue 发表于 4/15/2016 3:01:30 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2000515&postid=71419239#71419239]

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知道好多年了,还有住址,我还知道一个朋友的银行账号密码,又如何呢,我也没打算做坏事
Huaren
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天子呼来不上床

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2016-04-15 15:07:42

是的,这也是我想问楼主的问题,楼主有没有其他IRA Account?我自己因为有几万的前公司401K,不愿意按比例交税,若干年来一直没有走BackDoor Roth的路子


ashrimp 发表于 4/15/2016 2:31:00 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2000515&postid=71418741#71418741]

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当然就是没有啊,我没有任何deductible contribution,没有任何income in the traditional ira.就是简单的不能再简单的例子了,所以我才觉得他们是猪啊。
我觉得personal tax是非常straight forward的东西,就两个原则,all income should be taxed once at fed level unless specifically exempted;no income other than dividends should be taxed twice at fed level.然后所有的form都是为了track taxable/non taxable basis.只要是个人,读一遍instruction,Google 10分钟,什么不会啊。所以完全不可以理解他们的智商。
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Huaren
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天子呼来不上床

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2016-04-15 15:10:28

是的,turbotax会知道这是non-deductable IRA thus no tax increase

那些Tax firm其实并不靠谱
fucka 发表于 4/15/2016 2:53:49 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2000515&postid=71419120#71419120]

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对啊!我真是气死了。问题是跟我吵架的cohn reznick的partner,要是chinatown/hr block 100块钱的会计我就自认倒霉了。
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