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是不是任何情况下怀孕大家都会劝留下

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2007-01-11 11:49:00

3,4 is OK for abortion. Others, they have choices before they had the child. Now that the child has come to them, I don't think they have the right to kill her/him.
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2007-01-11 11:51:00

以下是引用islamicmm在2007-1-11 0:25:00的发言:

只要认真避孕,不管物理还是化学方法都有非常高的成功率。

强烈鄙视自己不注意避孕,只把打胎作为后备的人。

second this.

3, no choice, so the mother decide and abortion is OK

If mum's life is in danger, it chould be some complications caused by pregnancy and can not be foreseen. In that case, abortion should be performed.

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2007-01-11 14:48:00

以下是引用kittypeny在2007-1-11 12:25:00的发言:

so you mean "it" becomes a life of its own the second a lucky sperm gets into an egg?

just curious, where do we draw the line here? undoubtedly, before conception, cells in themselves are not lives and can be killed without a problem. Women lose 1 egg per month and it is natural and not a crime. Men lose millions of sperms per month and it is not a crime. Undoubtedly, after birth the child becomes an individual and is protected by law. But when, between conception and birth, does the fetus become a life, and not a bunch of cells?

anything with a heartbeat is not just a bunch of cells. If you can stop it the monent sperm go to egg, then that's fine with me.

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2007-01-11 17:04:00

以下是引用kittypeny在2007-1-11 16:01:00的发言:

some nice comments from a not so good website:

总括而言,笔者认为人的生命是始于卵细胞受精的时刻,受精卵、胚胎、胎儿都是人,具有与成人一样的权利,是神性不可侵犯的。然而,它们的权利却不会高于母亲的权利,在母亲生命受到威胁时,为了挽救孕妇的生命,便只好堕胎。在作出有关堕胎的决定时,我们必须把母亲的心理和胎儿的生命列入考虑范围,倘若我们只注视胎儿的道德权益,而漠视其它人的道德权益,则我们必会结论出胎儿的生命权在任何情形下皆是不容剥夺的。笔者认为,在因奸成孕的情况下,胎堕也是可以接纳的,当然,如能放婴孩生下来是再好不过的,但当受害人无法接受这个事实,而胎儿对她心理和将来的幸福构成严重影响时,堕胎仍是可接纳的。

http://www.cclw.net/other/duotai.html

卵细胞从卵巢排出后的存活时间为 24 小时,精子必须首先经过化学变化,获得能育力,才能推入卵细胞,使卵子受精,受精卵称为合子,合子以倍数的方式进行细胞分裂。6-7 天后,受精卵植入子宫,妊娠第二周合子成为胚胎,3-4 周后心脏泵血,5-6 周后呈现器官,第 8 周出现脑电波,手指和脚趾可以辨认,胚胎改称为胎儿。12-16 周出现胎动,16-20 周可听到心跳,20-40 周则体积增长,20-28 周成为「可存洋的胎儿,40 周则可分娩。

I think the timeline is about right. usually when you notice the menstruation is delayed and show positive result in pregnancy test, the hearbeat has already started.

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