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[求助]男宝的妈妈看过来...出生时要"割包皮"吗?????

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2013-01-14 19:55:00

以下是引用buptwy在1/13/2013 9:37:00 PM的发言:
听说出生时医院会建议男宝宝割包皮,请问JMS都怎么选择的?

不割。


每天洗澡很干净,没必要割。


如果长了,只要不是全包,发育了之后翻开来洗就可以。你说是翻开来疼,还是割一刀疼。翻开来也只有第一次疼,有几个全包的?概率太低了。这就跟以前把扁桃体割了,阑尾割了,没问题的时候。人生一样东西总是有意义的。


包皮长,个人觉得,变大的时候比较大。。。反之,割了一块应该长度也短了,是我会骂爹妈。


还有看过一篇文章,讲包皮balloon效应,反而可以帮助杀菌。


犹太人是宗教,必须割。


话说回来,女孩子也有大的,不好看啊,要不要也割。好奇怪的想法。


just my 2 cents.


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2013-01-14 20:01:00

以下是引用siss在1/14/2013 7:55:00 PM的发言:
不割。每天洗澡很干净,没必要割。如果长了,只要不是全包,发育了之后翻开来洗就可以。你说是翻开来疼,还是割一刀疼。翻开来也只有第一次疼,有几个全包的?概率太低了。这就跟以前把扁桃体割了,阑尾割了,没问题的时候。人生一样东西总是有意义的。包皮长,个人觉得,变大的时候比较大。。。反之,割了一块应该长度也短......

还有,我觉得长的很性感,变大了很有成就感。所以个人审美不同,没什么好嘲笑的。


男生之间,我觉得中学时代互相嘲笑的也不会仅仅是这个问题,个子长相考试都会互相评论。自己活得自在就可以,何必管别人怎么想,若是没有伤天害理。

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2013-01-14 20:04:00

以下是引用golds在1/14/2013 8:02:00 PM的发言:
女孩子有包皮?男婴儿会bq?天哪,我是不是白活了,怎么什么都不懂啊

女孩子有可能阴唇肥大,有些人觉得难看。


bq是什么?

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2013-01-14 20:08:00

以下是引用siss在1/14/2013 8:04:00 PM的发言:
女孩子有可能阴唇肥大,有些人觉得难看。bq是什么?

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喔,有没有查过怎么割的。。。我不小心手贱。。。超恶心。。。哪个lg看了都不会让儿子割。

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2013-01-14 20:24:00

以下是引用siss在1/14/2013 8:08:00 PM的发言:
喔,有没有查过怎么割的。。。我不小心手贱。。。超恶心。。。哪个lg看了都不会让儿子割。

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http://www.debate.org/opinions/do-females-prefer-males-who-have-circumcised-penises

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2013-01-14 20:48:00

以下是引用siss在1/14/2013 8:24:00 PM的发言:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/do-females-prefer-males-who-have-circumcised-penises

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http://people.howstuffworks.com/circumcision4.htm


我觉得做这个手术是child abuse.

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2013-01-15 16:54:00

以下是引用siss在1/14/2013 8:24:00 PM的发言:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/do-females-prefer-males-who-have-circumcised-penises

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"Obviously not! First up, my personal opinion, I think circumcised penises look like mutilated, skinned mushrooms, and there's that ugly scar on it. They seriously gross me out. Get a restoration! Now for some facts, 85% of men, globally, are intact/uncircumcised, and the whole 'preference' thing is merely what women are accustomed to (and what their country's media has spoon-fed them), which would mean around 85% of women in the world prefer intact. It is a known fact that only a small minority in the world still actively practice circumcision (in America and Muslim/Jewish countries). Even the circumcision rate in America has dropped to 33.5% in 2009. Why? Well, let me tell you what, actual science and real medical institutions mention, and why San Francisco almost passed a bill to ban circumcision outright. Circumcision rates are on a steady decline in America. Why? Because -every- single "benefit" you've ever heard about male genital mutilation (circumcision) has been debunked with modern research. What propaganda in American media spews out is actually the -opposite- to what the actual evidence demonstrates: - The foreskin (which is present on an intact penis) has anti-bacterial properties and prevents infection, effectively -reducing- the chance of STD infection and is much cleaner. "Smegma" (Greek for "soap"), the natural lubricant in an intact male penis, is the reason for this (and what's gotten all the absolutely ridiculous blame for everything that was once thought to be "bad" about it). It's also -much-easier to wash than a female's genitals, and here's a little fact that that propaganda doesn't tell you: there is THREE times more smegma behind the labia and under the clitoral hood of a female's genitals than an intact man's, and it does not get auto-cleaned from a vagina either (it's not present inside it). If you really believe the completely false, debunked claims that intact are "unclean", than keep this in mind: the vagina would be THREE TIMES DIRTIER if that was the case. If you want some proof from the world around you that foreskin substantially reduces the risk of STD transmission, bacterial buildup and infection, take a look at real-world facts and add them together: America is the last Western nation to actively practice circumcision and has the highest number of circumcised males from any country in the Western world. Sum that up with this fact: America has the highest rate of STD transmission from any country in the world.| Not enough proof? Check some credible peer-reviewed sources and educate yourself about a sex organ known as the foreskin. - Babies have a -much-higher chance of dying from circumcision than from the almost non-existent penile cancer. - Visit Circumcision.org (the website of a non-profit organization that presents peer-reviewed, verifiable sources for proof of its claims, instead of ridiculous claims made for the 400-million-dollar business that is circumcision), for an actual scientific research that proves that sex with an intact man is -much- more pleasurable and satisfying for the woman than with a circumcised man. And it should be obvious: without a foreskin, vaginal dryness occurs, which can eventually make sex difficult and unpleasurable for the woman since the man's dry glans tends to scoop out the woman's natural lubricant (this explains why most cut men actually require artificial lubricant). - The foreskin has been found to absorb estrogen from the woman's vagina during intercourse, which has a psychological effect on the male which makes him more intimate towards the female. - Intact men can last MUCH longer during sex. Why? An intact man doesn't need to be "near climax" to feel pleasure, while a circumcised male NEEDS to be on the brink of ejaculation in order to feel any pleasure, which tends to make him want to finish as fast as possible. An uncircumcised male enjoys the entire journey (like the female), and unlike a circumcised male, an intact man can actually -feel-, easily, when he is near climax, allowing him to easily prevent it (and also easily prevent getting a girl pregnant by accident!). Hmm. "The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high." (http://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/repcard3e.pdf). I wonder why. America also has the highest rate of erectile dysfunction in the developed world, and also the highest use of Viagara. A recent study had shown that intact penises are statistically larger than circumcised penises. This is due to a circumcised male's penis being restricted from most growth during puberty and childhood (there's a good reason the foreskin is initially adhered to the glans [self-cleaning] during childhood then separates: it's a part of the natural growth process). - The foreskin contains 20 000 nerve endings, while the clitoral hood of a female contains only 8000. These nerve endings are entirely devoted to sexual pleasure, but also pain. Female circumcision was banned in 1997 in America because of the negative trauma that girls grew up with from the pain from the procedure. When the brain of a -male- infant was tested before and after circumcision, the brain waves were disturbed, -permanently- after circumcision; believe it or not, this can have a drastic and permanent effect on their mental wellbeing, even if they pretend to be fine (technically they don't know the difference). A word of warning for mothers: if you're going to have this done to them, watch the procedure yourself. One mother, having watched it, was in mental trauma for decades, from witnessing the horrific screams of her child from the procedure. Well over 100 infants die every year in America from circumcision. ...Also, keep in mind that the vast majority of the "Yes" answers seem to be from both circumcised American males and paid advertisers, and from the looks of it, they had been brainwashed by a 400-million-dollar business. Not even the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends circumcision; and every single thing I've read from their responses are laughably false. Check "Intact and Famous" for a massive list of celebrities who are intact (e.g: Colin Farrell, Elvis Presley, James Dean, Dane Cook, Pierce Brosnan, Will Smith...). And there are several circled celebrities who actually hate the fact that they're circumcised: look them up. It is male genital mutilation that severely damages the man, and the woman as well. Want evidence for my claims? Check them for yourself from -credible-, scientific sources, instead of propaganda from paid media advertisements. And another thing, that comment on the "Yes" section that starts off with "Some want it even mandatory!", judging from the link he or she has given to an article, it's from some third-world African country, and the poster refers to it as his or her own country. They practice that like rituals from a ridiculous, biased, and now-disproven "study" from over a century ago, in a developing African country that didn't know how to practice the scientific method properly at the time. Look up details on that and you'll notice that it was the most ridiculously biased "study" you'll ever see."

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2013-01-15 17:14:00

以下是引用siss在1/15/2013 4:54:00 PM的发言:
引用一段:"Obviously not! First up, my personal opinion, I think circumcised penises look like mutilated, skinned mushrooms, and there's that ugly scar on ......

大意是,所谓的脏,女性阴道里要脏三倍。foreskin有分泌润滑液的作用,没有的更需要用润滑液,女方会觉得干燥。foreskin有20000个什么感觉细胞,女的也不过8000个。


我真心不觉得必要割,但长大了一定要撸起来洗,让爸爸做演示。晓之以理,动之以情。


说实在的,割了就回不来了。不割以后割也无所谓,疼几个星期一个月,生小孩不疼吗。大人了承担些痛也是应该的。


父母就这么决定割了。现在还有返回手术,就是后悔的。


还有那个部位皮肤很嫩,看不到疤或少疤我信,摸不到我不信。生小孩的疤摸着太明显了,前面后面。


还有我觉得被处理过的penis有点恶心,就像人妖。这句说得有点过了,希望做了的妈妈不要生气。是我的真实想法。


其实做了的就做了吧,没做的还是劝一句不要折腾小孩子。我挺怨我妈对我动了一些手脚,她很自豪,但是现在科技证明没必要啊,痛了结果也不甚理想。真的还不如不做这些事,让我现在自己决定。又不是致命性的。


给你娃一个自己选择的机会。


要说学医药的妹妹,我恶心的图片没发上来,怕孕妈妈受不了。有疤的,割坏的,手术的录像,割了之后血肉模糊活生生就是缺了一块皮,肉都在外面。


而且做的人越来越少,其他国家本来就很少做了,当然近年国内反而跟风。实在没有必要冒这种风险。以后很可能这一代新出生的都没做,反而成了异类,回天无术。反之,不行大不了现割。


还有,有研究表明割的时候宝宝心跳很快,是很痛苦的。有说法说,很痛苦的时候,小孩除了哭,就是让自己睡着。按照文中的说法,就是这种割的行为对脑电波的影响是终身的。按我读the bright start这本书的意思,就是儿时的记忆永记在心。别说刚出生没记忆。前三个到六个月脑干的最主要信息来源,都是潜意识记忆。

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2013-01-15 22:55:00

以下是引用page394在1/15/2013 9:40:00 PM的发言:

前面都说了like father like son.

你这几个回帖,一会儿说女孩儿也有大的,一会儿说什么人妖,怎么听着那么别扭啊。

中部地区,大部分孩子割包皮的地方,我听到有男孩子开始date前专门去做这个的,因为怕女生笑话。

我没有冒犯的意思。除了第二条是我的主观想法,第一条是事实,1996还是1997年女孩子这个割才在美国禁止,非洲现在还在做。


现在出生的小孩二十年以后才date,三十年河东,三十年河西。何必为一个莫须有的trend去做unnecessary cosmetic surgery,对于大多数人。小孩子挨一刀多痛苦。我小时候因此有过两次类似经历,我爱父母但也怨父母,因为都是不可返的。


你说的like father like son是对的。家族有包茎的,确实需要做这个手术。但大部分只是长点,仅仅从基本上讲完全不影响功能,如果成年时能忍第一次痛撸下来洗。撸下来后变大了是和包皮不长的一样的。


不再发帖了,各家各家决定,没有必须说服的意思。把知道的写出来,希望宝宝们不要遭罪,在我的想法里。


祝大家的宝宝们都平安快乐。




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