以下是引用robinsnow在2004-9-1 23:42:17的发言：
the key problem is i need it this saturday
cant buy online la
besides, ems is having some sale...
it seems the only chain outdoor store i can find near home
others are small town stores...
like a gortex jacket about $90, a system iii jackt about $55
moreover, it is tax free week now...miss new jersey ah...

what do you mean by weight/thickness of the two material?
you mean the feel by hand?
the weight is roughly the same...(well, there are heavier goretex jackets at $55 too...but ligher ones, paclite, is $90)
thickness is roughly the same
i cant tell by naked eyes...

以下是引用cucumber在2004-9-1 23:14:24的发言：
I don't know the difference between these two. But even for gortex, you don't have to pay full price ah. You can get good gortex deals online that are cheaper than ems. ems in my expression is quite expensive. besides, do they have rating on weight/thickness of these two?