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2008-10-13 10:24:00

youcai, the equity investments will be in a format of preferred, non-voting equity. Those are not dilutive. but the lawyers have not worked out the details yet:p
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2008-10-13 10:25:00

obviously MS survived this round. But 10% preferred will be a drag on their earning power in the near future.

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2008-10-13 10:37:00

以下是引用youcai.tai在2008-10-13 10:30:00的发言:



 


Even it's preferred stock, the earning of the common stock will be hurt, right?





of course. I think that i said it in the previous post. but it's not called dilutive. The the convertible shares will be dilutive though once being converted to common shares.

But the MS deal was blessed by the gov. According to NYTimes, the gov. told the Japanese that their investment will be protected by the U.S. I hope that it's written, other than a handshake.
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2008-10-13 10:46:00

以下是引用youcai.tai在2008-10-13 10:44:00的发言:



 


GOVT 不能忽悠别人吧,呵呵。





wasn't Citi 忽悠ed by FDIC? :(
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2008-10-13 11:26:00

以下是引用youcai.tai在2008-10-13 11:01:00的发言:


WFC is really on the top of my short list. It really paid a price of gold for a pile of trash.





yeah there is finally one thing we agree on. lol. btw did you read that Sheila Bare (sp?) called WFC for that offer? She 忽悠ed Citi.
Pandit will make her pay. lol.
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2008-10-13 11:54:00

以下是引用绿岛在2008-10-13 11:42:00的发言:


And probably WB's board wouldn't approve the Citi deal anyways.



WB's board will be worthless without Citi.
Anyway, what Bair did(thank you) is quite damaging. Nobody will answer her call for help next time. And let me put my words here that Citi will revenge one day:p
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2008-10-13 11:54:00

以下是引用youcai.tai在2008-10-13 11:38:00的发言:



 


I guess, she didn't like the deal which involves FDIC insurance





she looked at WB's book and she goes "shit, FDIC can't afford this sucker!" lol
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