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rbbear
Got my 2nd offer
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2004-08-27 16:05:00
Just got a call from the hiring manager. They have just one round interview and I passed it. Now having a headache to make a decision. Below is a list of the advantages and disadvantages of the two companies. Any suggestion is welcome.
Company 1. Huge (2nd largest global) biotech company in LA metro. Stable.
Role: statistical programmer (which I like less)
Excellent benefit.
Supervisor: an indian guy. Don't know if he's easy to get along with or not.
Co-workers all very nice.
Company 2. Tiny financial analysis company in Austin, TX, my dreamed city.
Life is much less expensive in Austin than in LA.
The company is too small and unstable.
Role: financial analyst (I like this more).
Benefit to be negotiated.
Supervisor: a Chinese lady, very nice, human, and thoughtful.
Co-workers very nice also.
Basically, the 2nd company has a lot pluses but the only disadvantage is that it's too small, very very risky and unstable. I like the city, the role and the people over there, but not sure if it worths to take the risk.
Thanks for any advices.
Company 1. Huge (2nd largest global) biotech company in LA metro. Stable.
Role: statistical programmer (which I like less)
Excellent benefit.
Supervisor: an indian guy. Don't know if he's easy to get along with or not.
Co-workers all very nice.
Company 2. Tiny financial analysis company in Austin, TX, my dreamed city.
Life is much less expensive in Austin than in LA.
The company is too small and unstable.
Role: financial analyst (I like this more).
Benefit to be negotiated.
Supervisor: a Chinese lady, very nice, human, and thoughtful.
Co-workers very nice also.
Basically, the 2nd company has a lot pluses but the only disadvantage is that it's too small, very very risky and unstable. I like the city, the role and the people over there, but not sure if it worths to take the risk.
Thanks for any advices.
以下是引用zegnia在2004-8-27 17:47:11的发言：
选相对工资水平高的，我觉得两个职位的工作几乎没什么区别，只是在不同的行业而已。
不要被financial这个幌子骗了，其实还是做编程，最多再来点excel，powerpoint。
最好真正的了解以下以后的日常工作是什么。
从学习的角度来说两个职位等价。
公司声望第一个好。
工资应该也是第一个高。
地理位置也是第一个好，可是你觉得第二个好。
~~~~~~~~~ cuz I'm now in Dallas ya~~
工作稳定性第一个好。
工作强度第一个低。
所以我会选第一个，不过可能第二个马上能办绿卡，第一个不办。
选相对工资水平高的，我觉得两个职位的工作几乎没什么区别，只是在不同的行业而已。
不要被financial这个幌子骗了，其实还是做编程，最多再来点excel，powerpoint。
最好真正的了解以下以后的日常工作是什么。
从学习的角度来说两个职位等价。
公司声望第一个好。
工资应该也是第一个高。
地理位置也是第一个好，可是你觉得第二个好。
~~~~~~~~~ cuz I'm now in Dallas ya~~
工作稳定性第一个好。
工作强度第一个低。
所以我会选第一个，不过可能第二个马上能办绿卡，第一个不办。
Do you mean it's possible to relocate to another city or state while still working for the same company? If yes, I'll go over there without hesitation.
TO is beautiful, but far more expensive than anywhere else.
TO is beautiful, but far more expensive than anywhere else.
以下是引用hiimo在2004-8-30 1:49:41的发言：
If your first company is the one I know, which is located in TO, I would recomand you go there. I have been working there for 6 months and relocated because of personal reason. But I think that is a good place for a fresh grad. Stable is good for GC.
If your first company is the one I know, which is located in TO, I would recomand you go there. I have been working there for 6 months and relocated because of personal reason. But I think that is a good place for a fresh grad. Stable is good for GC.
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I've got dual major in statistics and computer science. The role is about SAS programming and statistical analysis.
以下是引用Evanescence在2004-8-31 13:35:58的发言：
去加州吧！I think the location is better than Texas.
By the way, what's your major? Computer Science? What does a statistical programmer mean?
去加州吧！I think the location is better than Texas.
By the way, what's your major? Computer Science? What does a statistical programmer mean?
faint.... I forgot to ask them.
Is it appropriate for an entry level fresh graduate to ask about GC? Still got 3 onsites coming up and I may wanna ask for the GC issue if got a chance.
Is it appropriate for an entry level fresh graduate to ask about GC? Still got 3 onsites coming up and I may wanna ask for the GC issue if got a chance.
以下是引用littleshuishui在2004-9-3 17:11:45的发言：
rbbear, go to the one who do sponsor GC.
If both sponsor, go to the one you like.
rbbear, go to the one who do sponsor GC.
If both sponsor, go to the one you like.
Monster, amstat.org and sas-jobs.com. Got one interview out of a couple applications on sas-jobs. The company is still following with me. There're not a lot of posting on amstat but those are all real jobs, I think. Got one interview out of several applications and won the offer. All other interviews are from monster.
Simply posting your resume is not enough. You gotta apply for jobs.
Simply posting your resume is not enough. You gotta apply for jobs.
以下是引用behappy在2004-9-8 20:12:21的发言：
RRBEAR MM,你找工作的时候都在哪里找的?是在网上还是看报纸,还是参加招聘会呢?你觉得哪个网站比较管用?我也是学统计的,在MONSTER上POST了简历,根本没人理啊.
RRBEAR MM,你找工作的时候都在哪里找的?是在网上还是看报纸,还是参加招聘会呢?你觉得哪个网站比较管用?我也是学统计的,在MONSTER上POST了简历,根本没人理啊.
专业问题和personality问题 3：7吧。
专业问题无非是SAS, modeling such as logistic regression, survival analysis, blahblah... 不会太难应付。曾被问到principle component analysis, 没准备，于是screw up. Biotech公司会问drug development的问题，有关business and financial analyst的position会问懂不懂这些专业的东西。碰到这些问题，我一概have no idea. 一点经验是，如被问到不懂得技术问题，never pretend to know and guess. It is ok to say you don't know, but make sure you follow up with a question "how to solve this problem if it was you?", "what's the correct answer?". It does make difference to show that you're always eager to learn new stuffs.
70% of my interviews were chatting with the people. No presentation at all. It's important that you can get along with the coworkers well. Get 3-5 stories ready for behavior questions. Sleep well, dress neat and be confident. You'll get it.
专业问题无非是SAS, modeling such as logistic regression, survival analysis, blahblah... 不会太难应付。曾被问到principle component analysis, 没准备，于是screw up. Biotech公司会问drug development的问题，有关business and financial analyst的position会问懂不懂这些专业的东西。碰到这些问题，我一概have no idea. 一点经验是，如被问到不懂得技术问题，never pretend to know and guess. It is ok to say you don't know, but make sure you follow up with a question "how to solve this problem if it was you?", "what's the correct answer?". It does make difference to show that you're always eager to learn new stuffs.
70% of my interviews were chatting with the people. No presentation at all. It's important that you can get along with the coworkers well. Get 3-5 stories ready for behavior questions. Sleep well, dress neat and be confident. You'll get it.
以下是引用behappy在2004-9-9 15:42:59的发言：
谢谢MM的回答.我其实也申请了一些职位,但都杳无音信,我现在怀疑是我的简历有问题.另外我也是AMSTAT的学生MEMBER,倒是没想到在上面找工作.SAS-JOBS是个挺好的网站,我也给忘了.唉...整天瞎忙,都没忙到点子上.
另外能不能再请MM讲讲面试的事,他们都问你什么样的问题呀?专业问题多吗?难不难?要不要做PRESENTATION什么的?
谢谢MM的回答.我其实也申请了一些职位,但都杳无音信,我现在怀疑是我的简历有问题.另外我也是AMSTAT的学生MEMBER,倒是没想到在上面找工作.SAS-JOBS是个挺好的网站,我也给忘了.唉...整天瞎忙,都没忙到点子上.
另外能不能再请MM讲讲面试的事,他们都问你什么样的问题呀?专业问题多吗?难不难?要不要做PRESENTATION什么的?
以下是引用rbbear在2004-9-8 21:12:05的发言：
Monster, amstat.org and sas-jobs.com. Got one interview out of a couple applications on sas-jobs. The company is still following with me. There're not a lot of posting on amstat but those are all real jobs, I think. Got one interview out of several applications and won the offer. All other interviews are from monster.
Simply posting your resume is not enough. You gotta apply for jobs.
以下是引用behappy在2004-9-8 20:12:21的发言：
RRBEAR MM,你找工作的时候都在哪里找的?是在网上还是看报纸,还是参加招聘会呢?你觉得哪个网站比较管用?我也是学统计的,在MONSTER上POST了简历,根本没人理啊.
以下是引用behappy在2004-9-10 0:15:45的发言：
非常有帮助,多谢.:)
今天很巧,收到了第一个面试通知,这可是我发了两个多月简历以来的第一次呀.托MM的福了.:)
非常有帮助,多谢.:)
今天很巧,收到了第一个面试通知,这可是我发了两个多月简历以来的第一次呀.托MM的福了.:)
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