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2010-03-01 12:44:00

以下是引用世间帅哥归我有在3/1/2010 12:41:00 PM的发言:

i'm so eager to hear ur thoughts that i want to squeeze u like a tube of tooth paste!

co-squeeze kp! :)

Too busy in the weekend to visit the library. Waiting for the prelude from kp!
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2010-03-01 12:48:00

以下是引用kittypeny在3/1/2010 12:15:00 PM的发言:
今天早上刚刚听到:合理运用逻辑可以让你赢得几场辩论,疏远几千人。(win a few arguments, alienate thousands)
笑的差点开到戈壁去了。。。。。

hahaha, my cup of tea...
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2010-03-01 12:52:00

以下是引用kittypeny在3/1/2010 12:49:00 PM的发言:

西西,我的理解是,因为大众是不懂逻辑的。。。。。。。
一边听书我就忍不住想,假如大众都去学习学习这些,以后的辩论是否有重大改观?
所以很想在书楼施行
book 2讲政客的谎言,笑死,可是如果大众全都能犀利看出政客故意运用的逻辑fallacy,世界将会怎样?

The politics use what's most commonly accepted by the public--so I'd imagine once the public mastered logic, the politics would switch to logic immediately! :) Again, logic is simply a tool, I'd never respect it as the Rule of God! :P

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2010-03-01 12:53:00

以下是引用kittypeny在3/1/2010 12:51:00 PM的发言:

那你不妨也看看dear undercover detective,也是一样幽默。每封“回读者信”结尾的署名都幽默的不得了,周六出了会太阳那阵我自己在那儿读的个哈哈大笑,把嫩草筒子吓了几跳。

Same author?

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2010-03-01 12:55:00

以下是引用kittypeny在3/1/2010 12:53:00 PM的发言:

失去了logical fallacy这一强大有力的武器,政客的日子将多么难过

It's developed bit by bit... I believe in the brains of politics--a new method would for sure be developed by some smarties--like Clinton, like O8. :P

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2010-03-01 12:58:00

以下是引用冬日阳光灿烂在3/1/2010 12:56:00 PM的发言:

I am not sure it is a good thing. the same feeling came up when I was in one of 08's presidential competition speeches.

I was there, silently criticizing his fallacies, while other were echoing his slogan. Can you imagine most audience were like me? Maybe no leaders any more.

Sometimes I wonder which is better: a leader like O8, no leader at all... :P
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2010-03-01 13:00:00

以下是引用emptyempty在3/1/2010 12:57:00 PM的发言:

exactly. 所以去找对付他们的办法的话, 那就是永远比他们迟一部, 是没有什么用的

And, there're smarties in any career--the most excellent excels. ;P
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2010-03-01 13:01:00

以下是引用kittypeny在3/1/2010 12:58:00 PM的发言:

不知道大众的逻辑知识这几千年进步了how much呢。。。。or how little.......

All depends on the mass education. We were trained well on logic in China--does it really help our daily life? Probably not. So I don't think logic is a big deal.
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2010-03-01 13:06:00

以下是引用kittypeny在3/1/2010 1:03:00 PM的发言:

well trained? wow.......i don't know.....

See u, see me, see concord. :P
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2010-03-01 13:07:00

以下是引用冬日阳光灿烂在3/1/2010 1:03:00 PM的发言:

I vote for the existence of leaders. Sometimes a bad leader can do a lot of harm. But still the system is way better than anarchy. 

Any arguments (for the conclusion)?
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