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1979年的时候国内有把死刑犯游街的事情么？
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2009-01-30 10:16:00
虽然我没有看过， 但是如果有不会惊讶。 这个是自古以来的传统。 文革的时候这种事还是满多的， 1979年was only a couple years after the Cultural Revolution was over. And also I remember even in early 80s there was something called "yan2da3" when many were prosecuted due to minor crimes and remembered people were telling me about this type of 公审大会。
That's not exactly the point. The point is she's talking about political killings in 1979 here. I heard Yan Da also, even tho I also agree that it was way to harsh but it's not politial killings.
Ok. I get your point. Wasn't there a term called "反革命犯" before? When was it abandoned? I believe it was definitely after 1979.
Read a thread somewhere earlier says that the mayer's son of shanghai was also executed during yan da because of 流氓罪. There was rumers that the once famous actress Gong xue had also got involved.
No wonder she left China in a hurry.
The movie actor Chi Zhi Qiang was another famous case during that period, although he wasn't sentenced to death. Rumors had it that he offended the daughter of a general in Nanjing Jun Qu when they were dating.
[此贴子已经被作者于2009-1-30 10:34:27编辑过]
这是肯定的，我当时好几个亲戚都还在公安局工作。早前严打的时候很容易判死刑，我知道的一个工厂里的团支书，平时绝对是个好青年，因为酒后和几个哥们羞辱了一个女同事，就给枪毙了。
我覺得這個還挺該懲罰的。
It's not rape, is it? Even if it was, he didn't deserve to die.
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不过死刑游街这事貌似哪国都有过
欧洲以前应该不少
That was long long time ago. Did it happen after the industrial revolution even?
美国也这样，死刑犯的器官都被医院瓜分了
Really? I'm surprised. Care to elaborate?
同感。中国是有很多问题，历史的，现在的。可是那些靠出卖中国，到老外面前卖弄中国短处的人，来MAKE A LIVING的，来出名的，就特别让人瞧不起。
I don't think it's big deal, as long as they are telling the truth. Doesn't matter who said it.
could you provide any solid evidence shows that there were political killings in 1979 and they were conducted the way she described? and don't forget, she said she witnessed the scene several times when she was 5, 6 year old.
If those were not POLITICAL KILLINGS, what she said here was just a lie.
I don't have any solid evidence from my personal experience, but this is what I found from googling-
第一步（1979年刑法）初始立法
代表罪名：反革命罪、流氓罪
“文革”时期，由于没有制定统一的刑法典，罪名都由审判人员自己确定，许多罪名前不论青红皂白都得加上“反革命”二字，所以曾经闹出过把偷看女知青洗澡定为“反革命偷看青春罪”之类的笑话。
改革开放后，中国进入了一个新的历史发展时期，刑法的发展也进入一个新的时期。1979年，第五届全国人民代表大会第二次会议上通过了我国第一部社会主义的刑法典。它的诞生，表明新中国的刑法典从无到有，标志着我国刑事立法进入了一个新的阶段。那时，刑法规定的罪名约有130个。
由于历史的惯性，1979年颁布的刑法仍然带有较强的政治色彩，刑法学界也将1979年刑法解读为“一部闪耀着毛泽东思想光辉的刑法”，最为典型的就是分则第一章中的“反革命罪”。
王守信，女，原黑龙江省宾县燃料公司经理。从1971年12月至1978年8月，她利用经营市场用煤、工业用煤和小煤窑之机，假借为本单位搞“计划外工程”“造船”“买汽车”为由，非法加价出售原煤。然后采取提款不计账、不留收条等手段，总计贪污、侵吞人民币50余万元。其间，王守信又用6万余元请客、送礼、行贿、拉拢腐蚀党政干部200余人。王守信是在“文革”中靠投机钻营，“造反”上台，当上宾县燃料公司经理的。她一手抓权，一手抓钱，不择手段地大量鲸吞国家财富。
1979年10月20日，松花江地区中级人民法院以贪污罪判处王守信死刑，剥夺政治权利终身。王守信服判不上诉。案件经黑龙江省高级人民法院复核后，认定原判正确，同意核准死刑。1980年2月8日，王守信被押赴刑场执行枪决。在行刑前，王守信在摩托车的警戒押送下被游街示众。
点评：王守信贪污案是建国后迄止当时最大的贪污案，也是时任中共中央总书记胡耀邦同志亲自过问的大案要案。王守信贪污数额之巨，在当时轰动全国。1979年9月，《人民文学》还发表过一篇著名的报告文学——《人妖之间》，以当时被称之为“建国以来最大贪污犯”的王守信之堕落轨迹为线索，揭示了导致腐败的政治、经济和社会根源。王守信伏法后，在全国引起强烈的反响，受到了广大人民群众的热烈拥护。
70年代末期，严惩贪污犯罪分子王守信，表明了党和政府严惩腐败的坚强决心和坚定立场，在当时不仅有效地防止了社会上贪污腐败现象滋生蔓延的苗头，有力地震慑了贪污腐败分子，而且对形成70年代末期清新的社会风气和优良的党风起到了很好的作用，维护了党和政府的清廉形象，赢得了民心。从解放初期刘青山、张子善被处极刑到70年代末期王守信伏法毙命，让我们看到了一道共和国建国以来30余年间强力反腐的清晰轨迹。这些反腐大案要案不仅社会反响强烈、震撼人心，而且已成为我国深入开展反贪腐斗争、实行依法治国进程中的一些标志性的典型案例。
王守信贪污案对我国刑事法治发展的影响和推动还表现在：其为以后我国执行死刑禁止对人犯游街示众规定的出台埋下了伏笔。当年王守信死刑宣判大会是在松花江边的哈尔滨工人体育馆举行的，当时5000人的场馆座无虚席。随着审判长的高声宣布：把大贪污犯王守信带上来！体育馆侧廊里响起了铁链撞击地面的叮当声，接着两名女法警押着脚带重镣、五花大绑的王守信按照预定为示众而绕场一周的路线，缓缓向审判台前走来。
王守信面对这座大型体育馆里黑压压的数千人，一边用力扭动着被捆绑在身后的双臂，一边蹦跳着高呼：“我是无罪的！你们才有罪！”“我要为真理而斗争！”她脚上的铁镣在蹦跳时不断撞击着木质地板，发出很大的声响。一些法警迅速围拢上去，制止她叫喊，并临时改变了绕场一周的路线，迅速将她押到审判台前。当审判长宣判“判处大贪污犯王守信死刑，立即执行”时，王守信又立刻蹦跳着高喊：“共产党人是不怕死的！我是为真理而死……”这时，会场上出现了一片嘈杂的议论声。事后王守信又被五花大绑、游街示众。
虽然王守信当时喊的口号极其荒唐，但却引发了十分不好的影响。而且，为示众而押解王守信绕场一周以及事后的游街示众，以现代法治的观点看来，无疑是对死刑犯人权的不尊重。
因此，当年王守信执行死刑时示众的负面作用，逐渐被我们的立法者和司法者所认识。1997年通过的《刑事诉讼法》第212条第5款就明文规定：“执行死刑应当公布，不应示众。”
By reading the case you posted, I didn't see there's anything to do with POLITICS. It is a 贪污案, ok?
I also said don't you forget she mentioned she witnessed SEVERAL POLITICAL KILLINGS during an at most 2-year period. Do you really believe it is the case?
Sorry, although I appreciate you've spend your time to do the research but I wasn't convinced at all.
http://news.sina.com.cn/cul/2005-04-12/5665.html
Here is another one. Pretty scary to read. I feel sick after reading these so I'm going to stop here.
Whether she saw or not I don't know. But I believe there is such a thing as political killings.
所以说这些人写这些书不是因为他的社会良知，仅仅是make money 而已。用揭自己民族国家的伤疤给西方人看来赚钱，100000个瞧不上。
其实这种书一般不怎么赚的， 上了best seller的是另一回事。
还有不少人是自己筹钱出的呢， 我觉得赚钱一说讲不通的。
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