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CDC新指南:将轻中度患者隔离期缩短到10天;学校应当重开因儿童死亡率低。元芳你怎么看?

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2020-07-25 12:43:37


1,轻度和中度患者可以在10天后脱离隔离状态,无需重新测试即可恢复工作。如果患者发烧,则必须至少持续24小时。原因是是“看症状”可以更好地衡量某人的传染性,因此可以“避免不必要地将其隔离开来,使其不能工作。”

“symptoms are a better gauge of how infectious someone is so they are not kept unnecessarily isolated and excluded from work or other responsibilities." 


2,标题和主要篇幅讲述“ 今年秋天重新开放美国学校的重要性”。与其他大多数CDC文档相反,该文档侧重于列举了上学对儿童的诸多好处以及远程教学的危害。几乎没有讨论风险。


指南强调:“如果儿童被感染,他们发生严重症状的可能性大大降低,学龄儿童的死亡率也远低于成人”。CDC目前不建议学校进行全面的症状筛查(对所有K-12年级的学生进行筛查),”意见补充说:“应该大力鼓励父母或看护者每天监控孩子的迹象。生病的学生不应该上学。”

“The best available evidence indicates that COVID-19 poses relatively low risks to school-aged children," the statement reads. Children appear to be at lower risk for contracting COVID-19 compared to adults. To put this in perspective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as of July 17, 2020, the United States reported that children and adolescents under 18 years old account for under 7 percent of COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of COVID-19-related deaths," it adds.

(根据CDC目前数据,64名儿童死亡,342名发现多系统炎症综合症。对于儿童将病毒传播给他人的概率目前尚无定论。韩国有个研究说10岁以上儿童可以像成人一样传播,推测是肺活量的关系)


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/23/new-cdc-guidelines-mild-moderate-covid-19-cases-isolate-10-days/5495376002/

https://www.pharmacist.com/article/new-cdc-guidelines-say-people-mild-moderate-covid-19-only-need-isolate-10-days

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/health/cdc-schools-coronavirus.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1234325

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-issues-coronavirus-guidelines-for-reopening-schools-11595612205



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2020-07-25 12:47:33

就是叫大家不要戴口罩的那家cdc?

是的,就是那家。不仅是坚持不让戴口罩,而且:

1,疫情初期没能履行监控全球疫情的职责(funding被砍),

In 2018, the CDC stopped epidemic prevention activities in 39 out of 49 countries, including China, after the Trump administration refused to reallocate money to a program that began as part of the government''s response to the Ebola outbreak in 2014.

At that time, Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the CDC from 2009 to 2017, said the move "would significantly increase the chance an epidemic will spread without our knowledge and endanger lives in our country and around the world."


2,试剂盒出错,实验室感染,错过了最重要的抗疫窗口

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/cdc-lab-contamination-delayed-coronavirus-testing-67438


3,上周还发生了根据白宫要求偷偷删数据的事情(被大规模批评后又恢复了)

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507971-trump-administration-seeking-to-block-funding-for-cdc-contact-tracing


4,现在又为教育部部长和副部长的“学校必须重开”背书

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-new-cdc-isbe-guidance-schools-20200724-raohulhdzjcr3mafdnrdtu54k4-story.html


题外话:这个director Redfield在做艾滋病砖家的时候就有很多争议。2018年川普任命他的时候给了37万的高薪,又引起争议后自降到21万(之前他在马里兰大学有百万年薪,川普2017年任命的第一个director在被股票交易调查后做了几个月就辞职了)。疫情期间他一直没啥存在感,让80岁的老福奇上去挡hoax派的指责。这次新闻发布会后有八个cdc的专家说他完全政治化了

https://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R._Redfield" target="_blank">https://en.https://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R._Redfield

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/cdc-redfield-aids-walter-reed-army-investigation/index.html


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2020-07-25 13:33:20

Trump or America


ChristinaW 发表于 2020-07-25 13:14

You will be surprised how many ppl choose differently haha

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2020-07-25 13:37:33

说的好像孩子们不能回家传染给大人一样


快乐小猴 发表于 2020-07-25 13:16

以色列的学校放开以后感染率就上升了


一个孩子回去就可以传染一家人,或者到学校传染一个班,那就不是日增七八万的问题了


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2020-07-25 13:42:54

不这么说,川普政府也不会理CDC的guideline


Lightwinds 发表于 2020-07-25 13:19

他理了啊,cdc还是很重要的,毕竟很多机构一直以来都是follow cdc guideline的


所以他先批评cdc的建议"非常艰难和昂贵",然后说要进一步削减经费,再然后两周后cdc就公布了新的指南。很多媒体说是教育部给写的修改版


“Early this month, President Trump pushed federal health officials to ease coronavirus guidelinesfor schools and threatened to withhold federal funding from districts that don’t reopen for in-person learning.

Mr. Trump said at the time that he disagreed with an earlier version of guidelines the CDC had devised, saying the agency was “asking schools to do very impractical things.”

Many doctors, however, say it is important for local communities to have new infections under control before students return to classrooms, especially with Covid-19 cases surging across many parts of the country.


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2020-07-25 13:44:40

老师都病了,谁来教课?


点苍鹤云 发表于 2020-07-25 13:21

是啊,这次疫情感觉美国当老师和医护真的是性价比低,危险系数大的工作

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2020-07-25 14:33:59

难以置信


梅干茶泡饭 发表于 2020-07-25 13:21

疫情以来开始关注新闻,经常有你这种感受😂

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2020-07-25 14:59:16

就是叫大家不要戴口罩的那家cdc?


ConnieBear 发表于 2020-07-25 13:23

是的,就是那家。不仅是坚持不让戴口罩,而且:

1,疫情初期没能履行监控全球疫情的职责(funding被砍),

In 2018, the CDC stopped epidemic prevention activities in 39 out of 49 countries, including China, after the Trump administration refused to reallocate money to a program that began as part of the government's response to the Ebola outbreak in 2014.

At that time, Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the CDC from 2009 to 2017, said the move "would significantly increase the chance an epidemic will spread without our knowledge and endanger lives in our country and around the world."


2,试剂盒出错,实验室感染,错过了最重要的抗疫窗口

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/cdc-lab-contamination-delayed-coronavirus-testing-67438


3,上周还发生了根据白宫要求偷偷删数据的事情(被大规模批评后又恢复了)

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507971-trump-administration-seeking-to-block-funding-for-cdc-contact-tracing


4,现在又为教育部部长和副部长的“学校必须重开”背书

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-new-cdc-isbe-guidance-schools-20200724-raohulhdzjcr3mafdnrdtu54k4-story.html


题外话:这个director Redfield在做艾滋病砖家的时候就有很多争议。2018年川普任命他的时候给了37万的高薪,又引起争议后自降到21万(之前他在马里兰大学有百万年薪,川普2017年任命的第一个director在被股票交易调查后做了几个月就辞职了)。疫情期间他一直没啥存在感,让80岁的老福奇上去挡hoax派的指责。这次新闻发布会后有八个cdc的专家说他完全政治化了

https://en.[url]https://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R._Redfield[/url]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/cdc-redfield-aids-walter-reed-army-investigation/index.html




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2020-07-25 15:53:47

川粉们表衷心的时候到了


ranran 发表于 2020-07-25 13:25

他们应该会觉得都是假新闻

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2020-07-25 15:56:39

回复1楼爱与自由的帖子 说实话美国很多医院里已经不会对员工实行什么隔离14 天了,好几个月以来都是没有症状7 天后就能上班 也不需要再检测。 你不知道,但是也一直都这么做
laurenplus 发表于 2020-07-25 13:25

请问是什么时间开始的?什么地区呢?


因为我家人在华盛顿,两个月前轻症,被要求病愈后自我隔离两周再回去工作


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