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[ZT Fortune]美国房市的4个Myth
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2006-08-26 10:57:00
NEW YORK (Fortune) -- For the past five years, the housing bulls have been trotting out one rational-sounding argument after another to explain why the boom made perfect economic sense.
Forget about a crash, they assured homeowners. Expect a "soft landing" where your three-bedroom colonial in Larchmont or Larkspur not only holds onto its huge price gains, but keeps appreciating at a "normal," "sustainable" rate of 6 percent or so into the sunset.
Americans wanted to believe, and they did. Now, the giant popping noise you're hearing is the sound of yesterday's myths exploding like balloons pumped up with too much hot air.
The newest sign that the myth-makers were spectacularly wrong is the data on existing home sales for July. Nationwide, median prices rose .9 percent.
But even that meager number masks the real story. Prices actually fell where housing is most vulnerable, in the bubble markets in the West and Northeast. In the Northeast, they dropped 2.1 percent from July of 2005, at the same time prices nationwide rose around 3 percent, meaning that houses lost over 5 percent of their value adjusted for inflation.
Homeowners just saw their wealth shrink, by a lot. The numbers will only get worse. It's time to examine the clichés that the "experts" - chiefly analysts and economists from realtors and mortgage associations - used to convince Americans that what they're seeing now could never happen. Here are the four great housing myths - and why they never made much sense in the first place.
Myth #1: As long as job growth is strong, prices can't go down
You can almost forgive the bulls for stumbling over this one. In past housing recessions, prices fell sharply in markets with severe job losses, like Texas in the mid-80s and Boston in the early 90s.
But the argument that prices can't fall in a good job market doesn't make economic sense: To be sure, a strong employment picture helps demand. But if far more houses are pouring onto the market than can be absorbed by households lured by the new jobs, and if the sellers are pressured to sell, prices will fall.
That's precisely what's happening now in good job markets such as San Diego and Northern Virginia. In this boom, prices soared to such extraordinary levels that builders kept churning out new homes, and owners of existing houses threw a record number of units on the market to cash out. The supply grew so fast that demand, even in strong job markets, simply couldn't keep up.
As usual, for the believers, it's always easier to fall back on a cliché than read the warning signs.
Myth #2: The builders learned their lesson in the last downturn. They won't swamp the market with new houses when the market turns
You might call this the OPEC theory of homebuilders. The idea was that the builders wouldn't take a chance by building lots of unsold, "spec" units that could clog the market in a downturn. They had supposedly absorbed hard-won discipline from their excessive building in past downturns.
Well, it hasn't turned out that way. Builders are still pouring out near-record numbers of new homes as sales decline, assuring a further fall in prices. "Buyers" are walking away from deposits on houses that were supposedly pre-sold, forcing developers to throw them back on the market at a discount.
The problem is that even now, margins on new homes are still pretty good, though well below the levels of a year ago. As a result, builders will just keep building until those big margins evaporate. High prices are sewing the seeds of their own demise. They always do.
Myth #3: Low interest rates will keep values rising, or at the very least, put a floor under prices
What really matters for all assets, whether it's houses, stocks or bonds, is real interest rates - in other words, nominal rates after subtracting inflation. And real rates fell sharply starting in 2001. That caused a legitimate, one-time increase in housing prices.
The rub is that prices rose far more than could ever be justified by declining mortgage rates. That's where the bubble kicked in. Today's relatively low rates are not, and never were, a reason why prices would keep rising. Once real rates drop and stabilize, the impetus goes away - again, the gain is a one-time, not a recurring, phenomenon.
Today, real 10-year rates are still extremely low. They have nowhere to go but up. When the one-time gain of 2001-2004 reverses, housing prices could take a further hit.
By the way, a decline in rates due to a fall in inflation isn't the boom to real estate it's advertised to be. Sure, rates go down, but workers also receive lower raises. So the fall in rates turns out to be a wash. As for what matters - real rates - what goes down later goes up, and housing prices go in the other direction, namely south.
Myth #4: restriction on development in the suburbs ensure low supply, and guarantee rising prices
This argument ignores that the tough zoning laws and anti-development fervor have been a feature of America's tony towns since the early 1970s. The "not in my town" phenomenon is nothing new.
Sure, it's still difficult to get new building permits in suburbs of New Jersey, New York, Washington, Seattle and San Francisco. But America's housing market is extremely fluid. People move farther from job centers, and commute longer hours, to get bargains where housing is plentiful. Then the jobs move to the areas with the cheap houses. People in their 50s and 60s cash out early in San Diego and buy a bigger house for half the money in Texas or South Carolina.
And the cities are just as enthusiastic about developing blighted areas with new, tax-paying high-rises as the suburbs are slamming the door. In the New York area, Brooklyn, Jersey City and Hoboken - and even Manhattan - are sprouting more new housing than in decades, despite a job market that's hardly robust.
A year ago, the reigning cliché was that real estate had entered a new world of "no supply." Now, a record 3.85 million homes are up for sale, and buyers are getting scarce.
No, the world hasn't changed. And the myths haven't changed either. Next time, don't believe them.
good to read, thanks
很佩服小坏蛋同学关于房市的一些见解。不过我始终没搞明白尚未买方的穷人应该如何应对。房价下来了似乎是好事,可是同时利率上去了,那月供还是不会低到哪儿去是吧?那什么时候买房合适呢?
另外我发现我们这个地方买大点的房子一边自己住一边租出去(附近有些地区房子肯定租的出去),比买小点的房子自己住,每月消费负担要轻一些。但是买大点的房子,房价就肯定是我的收入的六七倍了(说起来我们这儿房价还真不算高,实在是我工资太低),这样是不是风险太大了?
很佩服小坏蛋同学关于房市的一些见解。不过我始终没搞明白尚未买方的穷人应该如何应对。房价下来了似乎是好事,可是同时利率上去了,那月供还是不会低到哪儿去是吧?那什么时候买房合适呢?
另外我发现我们这个地方买大点的房子一边自己住一边租出去(附近有些地区房子肯定租的出去),比买小点的房子自己住,每月消费负担要轻一些。但是买大点的房子,房价就肯定是我的收入的六七倍了(说起来我们这儿房价还真不算高,实在是我工资太低),这样是不是风险太大了?
租金也是你的收入啊!
很佩服小坏蛋同学关于房市的一些见解。不过我始终没搞明白尚未买方的穷人应该如何应对。房价下来了似乎是好事,可是同时利率上去了,那月供还是不会低到哪儿去是吧?那什么时候买房合适呢?
另外我发现我们这个地方买大点的房子一边自己住一边租出去(附近有些地区房子肯定租的出去),比买小点的房子自己住,每月消费负担要轻一些。但是买大点的房子,房价就肯定是我的收入的六七倍了(说起来我们这儿房价还真不算高,实在是我工资太低),这样是不是风险太大了?
租金也是你的收入啊!
但是贵的房子贬起值来会不会也跌的多?那样我担心会破产
另外,大家是不是都有了绿卡才买房?
很佩服小坏蛋同学关于房市的一些见解。不过我始终没搞明白尚未买方的穷人应该如何应对。房价下来了似乎是好事,可是同时利率上去了,那月供还是不会低到哪儿去是吧?那什么时候买房合适呢?
另外我发现我们这个地方买大点的房子一边自己住一边租出去(附近有些地区房子肯定租的出去),比买小点的房子自己住,每月消费负担要轻一些。但是买大点的房子,房价就肯定是我的收入的六七倍了(说起来我们这儿房价还真不算高,实在是我工资太低),这样是不是风险太大了?
不是我的见解,只是ZT的。再重复一下房市基本规律:
1)利率长期平均是7-8%,所以现在利率根本就不高。当然以后怎样,不一定。
2)房价上升,利率低,就象过去5年,适合借大笔贷款,买大房子。
3)房价下降,利率高到10%或以上(现在还没有到这步)。适合先攒钱。一方面房子不再涨了,首付越多日后风险越小。另一方面,利率高也适合存首付,复利惊人。
4)变数很多,如果美国不顾货币信用,继续大量印纸币,会令情况复杂化,上面的论述也不一定成立。
现在车没有,工作没有,身份没有,另外还欠了银行一屁股的债,利息还狂高的说
国内的房子,亏本卖了的第二个月本地的楼价就开始飙升了,损失惨重的说
哎,不能再提房子了,伤啊
到底了
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