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[转帖]投资(III)-股票的基本概念

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2007-01-07 00:08:00

One correction, instead saying "Don't try to beat the market", it should be "Don't try to time the market". 
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2007-01-07 23:29:00

以下是引用xyin在2007-1-7 21:10:00的发言:

interesting. I am trying to do both

1) Beat the market (20 year time frame)

2) time the market (20 year time frame).

Your entry point is critical. exiting strategy should be set before you buy anything.

How are you going to time the market in 20 year time frame? 

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2007-01-10 00:15:00

以下是引用xyin在2007-1-8 8:55:00的发言:
this is a simple calculation, just to prove a point, so please do not critisize the numbers chosen.

I can roughly understand your calculation.  However!!!  How can you tell if the next 3-4 yrs are going to be bull/bear market?  You calculation is based on a given assumption that YOU KNOW that market is going to be bull/bear market.  There are actually three market:  Bull, Bear and Flat.  Probaility-speaking, each market will have equal chance of occuring in any given year(that is 33.333333% chance for each market occurance).  You have to take the weighted average of all your projected numbers, which means that your number will be significantly diluted.  Plus, more importantly, I think it is very important to define my defination of "market".  Market mean the whole market that contains all possible asset class (equity, bonds, real-estate, commodity, and many others).  So, a bull market in equity can translate into bear market in other asset class.  I believe that your calculation seems to be only restricted in equity market (correct me if I am wrong).  When you consider the whole-market concept, the expected return of a well-diversifed portfilio should be the weighed average return of all its asset class.  Bottom line:  (1)I don't know how to apply calcuations base on "Certain Future Events" (I"know" next yr will be bull/bear market), (2) Market concept is based on a whole-market concept.  I can you that you must have taken lot of time-value class.

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